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Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf

by help bot <nomorechess@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 17, 2008 at 10:45 AM

On Apr 17, 11:55 am, Sanny <softta...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> >   Look at the opening; after White plays d3, he is
> > threatening to win the e-pawn for free by Nxe5-- a
> > simple fact which both players somehow missed.
> > This is about as simple as tactics can get.
>
> Yes instead of 7.Nc3 White should have played 7.BxN PxB 8. Nxe5 and
> gained the e5 Pawn.
>
> GetClub Missed it because I have thought it to Develop its pieces
> First then go for the Kill.

  Piece development is good.  Tactics, however,
always take first priority.


> > > Chrisf is playing in just 10 sec/ move while easy level was taking
30
> > > sec / move. So you can see how fast Chrisf was thinking.
>
> >   My advice would be to slow down a bit, and
> > look at what's actually going on.  You can play
> > "blitz" against the Beginner level.
>
> When Chrisf can win playing in just 4-5 sec/move against Beginner why
> will he take longer.

  Well, so he could play a decent game.  No
matter how "brilliant" the final attack might
appear, if you overlook an elementary win of
a pawn, you have to pull a cheap trick in order
to "publish" it.  For instance, long time readers
of Chess Lies will note that virtually every
brilliant move by Larry Evans is shown as a
diagram, with the game score omitted (and
for good reason).  One such game had GM
Sammy Reshevsky /walking all over/ Larry
Evans before throwing away an easy win;
that one reminded me of a simul game--
except that in a simul, your opponent does
not come up with a brilliant escape at the
end!  You will likely never see that game
presented as an annotated "master" game,
because LE played like a duffer, but for his
final, saving move.


> For myself even if I take 20 min / move I will never be able to win
> the Beginner Level.

  Ah, then perhaps you have made the
easiest level too tough?  Nobody wants to
lose every game, to get beaten like carrots,
chopped like an onion, diced like a beet.


> You need atleast 20-30 sec/ move to win against Beginner. I will never
> sugest you to play Blitz against Beginner as Beginner may spoil your
> Ratings.

  My rating seems to be doing okay, as it
is higher than anyone else's.  I think you
need to worry more over the poor folks out
there-- the ones with much lower ratings.  :>D


> Now Higher Levels like Normal/ Easy/ have got Higher points. You get
> +40 Rating points on winning Master Level. and arround +20 for winning
> the Normal Level. While only +5 points for winning the Beginner Level.
>
> So if you are a good player you may play with Higher Levels and take
> your Scores to +2000 by playing just a few games.

  Okay, I'll give it a try.  The last few days I
got side-tracked by the April 15th deadline
for filing taxes.  Now, I'm sick; I actually
slept the better part of the last two days,
alternating with blowing my runny nose a
thousand times so I could breathe.


> Yes Master Level plays as good as Rybka. I played a few games with
> Easy & Normal Level and I think Master plays as good as Rybka. I have
> not yet tried as my Rating is low and not allowed to duel with Master
> Level.

  You will know when your program is as
good as Rybka, by the fact that it will win
every game.  Also, everyone on this news
group will suddenly stop posting, due to
myocardial infarctions and imploding
brains.  Try to be patient, and not claim
your world supremacy prematurely.


> Do you think Chrisf just overlooked the Fork or he really gave the
> sacrifice.

  I think he was not looking at everything.
Some players just focus on what they want
to do next, while ignoring other things that
are going on.  Me, I would have serious
trouble overlooking the gaffe in the opening;
that's because I try to look at what's
happening on the board.


> In case Easy Level do not give knight Sacrifice was there
> any chance for Easy to win the game?

  White left its King exposed to a Knight sac'
on h3.  If you want your program to win more,
just improve its tactics so the games will last
longer.  The longer a game lasts, the more
op****tunities there will be for the human to
go wrong.  Let's say you got to where the
average game lasted 100 moves; I think by
that point, your program would be winning a
lot more games, due to stupid human errors.


  -- help bot
 




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Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-16 22:53:02 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-17 07:08:38 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-17 08:55:50 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-17 10:16:25 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-17 10:45:29 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-17 15:45:57 
Zebediah Returned to take back his crown !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-17 22:14:37 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-18 00:35:58 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
"chipschap@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-18 16:07:50 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Kenneth Sloan <Kenneth  2008-04-18 21:09:16 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-19 00:11:52 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-19 06:54:51 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-19 07:53:58 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-19 08:47:12 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-20 02:36:27 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-20 02:53:28 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-20 03:29:00 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-21 00:42:28 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-21 01:21:49 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-21 05:19:42 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-21 10:40:55 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-22 09:13:37 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-22 02:20:26 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-22 16:06:42 
Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-23 01:28:36 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-23 12:40:41 
Zebediah again win the game with Advance Level
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-23 01:40:41 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-23 06:28:57 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-23 11:05:15 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-23 21:10:01 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-23 16:28:10 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-23 22:53:02 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Bjoern <bjoern@[EMAIL   2008-04-24 10:19:25 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-23 22:56:04 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-24 04:27:23 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Markus Islinger <mwifo  2008-04-24 14:19:02 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-24 13:49:08 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-24 08:44:27 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-24 09:47:38 

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