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Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!

by help bot <nomorechess@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 13, 2008 at 01:08 AM

On Apr 13, 2:47 am, Sanny <softta...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Now if you think harder you can win Beginner with a Pawn odds.
>
> Easy Level can win you with a Pawn Odd. meaning if you have a extra
> pawn then your game will be equal to that of Easy Level.
>
> Here is the new Rating I give to all
>
> Beginner: 1900 (5-10 sec/ move)
> Easy: 2100 (20-30 sec/ move)
> Normal: 2300 (1-2 min/ move)
> Master: 2500 (5-10 min/ move)


  It doesn't work like that.  First of all, I am still
winning most of the games; the draw problem
nips me when I have gotten into lost positions,
while in winning positions, I can and do win.  I
also still win a lot of drawable positions in the
endgame.  (Okay, I botched *one* ending in
which I could have had a Q vs. B&N, with all
pawns on one side of the board.  Instead, I
went for Q vs. R&N, thinking I had a forced
win of a pawn with check.  GetClub defended
well and forced me to repeat the position.)

  Secondly, as we saw with the pawn-and-move
odds match between Rybka and GM Roman
Dzindzichashvili, when you start the game up
a pawn the program can have severe problems
in trying to draw, let alone win.  In fact, most of
RD's moves were aimed at trading pieces off, not
improving his position or fighting for the
initiative, etc.   Add in some problems with the
contempt-factor causing "issues", and it is
very possible that the GetClub program could
start off losing virtually every such odds game
to me.  Without the contempt-factor, I can just
trade and win, thanks to my "free" pawn.

  Now, as for the 1900-2500 rating point range,
I think you are getting much closer but still,
these numbers are much too high.  You will
know when the program reaches 2500 by the
fact that everybody will lose every game,
except those who merely operate another
chess program and enter the moves.  Maybe
the low end is a fair estimate-- 1900 USCF,
but 2500 for Master level?   In any case, you
should begin seeing a lot more wins now,
and as you already pointed out, more draws.


  -- help bot
 




 12 Posts in Topic:
GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-10 01:46:37 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Bjoern <bjoern@[EMAIL   2008-04-11 20:59:42 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Bjoern <bjoern@[EMAIL   2008-04-11 21:04:41 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-11 21:44:01 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Bjoern <bjoern@[EMAIL   2008-04-12 22:48:22 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-12 19:11:47 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-12 23:47:44 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Bjoern <bjoern@[EMAIL   2008-04-13 09:19:43 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-13 01:08:58 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-16 22:35:09 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-16 22:36:56 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-17 08:47:39 

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