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Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.

by Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 8, 2008 at 09:37 AM

Sanny wrote:
>> I am now going to play a game against Rybka and see if the improvement
>> is useful or not and post the game below for you to see how good it
>> plays against Rybka.

ROFL. Rybka has already grabbed it by the goolies at move 13.
AFAICT Getclub offered its goolies to be grabbed two moves before
> 
> Here is the Game Rybka wins Easy Level in just 33 moves. Despite the
> improvements suggested by you Rybka had the upper hand.
> 
> But Still GetClub handled the position for quite sometime.

Hardly - it was losing quite badly from move 13 still in the opening.
> 
> Do you see that the program now do not take out the Queen aimlessly.
> 
> What else can be done to improve GetClub?

I keep noticing that very often a key developing move like in this case 
10. ... Be7 is never played by Getclub (or Be2 for white). It would have 
at least have had a s****ting chance with that line.

Perhaps you could tweak the evaluation to give a 20cp bonus to moves 
which permit castling to be played next (and also a bonus for castling). 
And also a bonus for moving minor pieces off their home squares.

AFAICT the least bad continuation after the disastrous

10. ... Nxe4

This could be a bug - a 6 ply search should reveal why this isn't a 
very good idea. And most engines prefer Be7 at a 1 ply search.

11. a3  d5
12. a3xN c6??

What is it playing at here? c6 is absolutely awful. Must be a BUG!

12. ... Bxb4 is obviously the least bad move by far!
Even the simplest material evaluation function would spot that move!
> 
> Do you still see something wrong in GetClubs play other than Tactics?

See above. It will gift its N for a P when it could have had 2P and 
freedom to castle into relative safety as compensation. This is still 
badly losing, but a lot better than the daft line it played.

> 10. Bc2-b3{18} Nf6-e4{24}
> 11. a2-a3{16} d6-d5{22}
> 12. a3-b4{20} c7-c6{54}

Terminal decline sets in here. Rybka is already winning by miles.

Regards,
Martin Brown
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Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-02 22:56:16 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 12:04:42 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-03 22:16:59 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 23:01:49 
Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-03 23:48:47 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-04 00:23:46 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-08 09:37:02 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
zzz <ik_ben_piet_snot@  2008-05-04 10:40:38 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-04 10:50:26 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-04 20:38:25 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-04 21:01:49 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-07 12:30:51 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-07 09:38:44 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-07 14:40:17 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-08 22:19:06 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-09 10:14:25 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 00:45:27 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
"chipschap@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 08:18:00 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-09 09:57:41 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Patrick Volk <pjvolk@[  2008-05-11 18:15:36 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-12 08:38:04 
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Patrick Volk <pjvolk@[  2008-05-12 23:05:33 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 13:48:13 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-09 21:54:34 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-10 14:37:23 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 23:27:06 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
"Wlodzimierz Holszty  2008-05-09 23:30:54 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
"Wlodzimierz Holszty  2008-05-10 01:15:32 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-10 03:05:32 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-10 04:32:18 

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