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Re: What does this bid tell you?

by henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTECTED] May 13, 2008 at 12:34 PM

On May 13, 12:27 pm, "Thomas Dehn" <thomas-use...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> <henrysun...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > On May 13, 8:58 am, "Thomas Dehn" <thomas-use...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > "sofos" <papakon...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > Matchpoints  NS nonvul  EW vul
>
> > > > South    West     North     East
> > > >   2H        2S         3H         4S
> > > >   5D
>
> > > > The 2H is a weak two bid. The 5D is what?
>
> > > 5D shows "the next drinks are on me".
> > > If S wants to bid on the 5 level here, then opening 2H
> > > was an error.
>
> > > As N is on lead against spades, 5D can be imagined
> > > as "lead diamonds rather than hearts". But the above
> > > auction is not one of those rare auctions where the 2H
> > > opener is allowed to bid again on his own.
>
> > > Thomas
>
> > I wouldn't go quite that far.  If south has an abnormal weak2 with a
> > diamond void, perhaps
>
> > xx
> > KJTxxx
> > VOID
> > KJTxx
>
> Thats not a weak two. And the 5D bid would be
> in the tradition of "why let them go down in 4S when
> we can go down?"
>
> Thomas

It may not be a weak2 FOR YOU, but it would most certainly be a weak2
for folks like Zia and Paul Trent.

That having been said, if FOR YOU that type of hand cannot be opened
2h, then FOR YOU, there is no one suited hand that can bid 5d in that
auction.

On the other hand, if responder has

Kx
Qxxx
xxxxx
Ax

and happens to lead a heart against 4s instead of a diamond when I
hold

xx
KJTxxx
VOID
KJTxx

well that might be unfortunate since now 4s might be making.

So it does all come down, systemically, to the question of whether one
can open a weak2 with a two suited hand and a void somewhere.  If so,
then a bid on the 5-level should show that type of hand.

If not, then there should be no hand that bids on the 5-level freely.

Henrysun909
 




 19 Posts in Topic:
What does this bid tell you?
sofos <papakon100@[EMA  2008-05-12 21:06:33 
Re: What does this bid tell you?
Ville Likitalo <liki@[  2008-05-13 09:11:26 
Re: What does this bid tell you?
"raija d" <m  2008-05-12 23:50:43 
Re: What does this bid tell you?
patmpowers@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-12 23:54:35 
Re: What does this bid tell you?
CBFalconer <cbfalconer  2008-05-13 11:12:47 
Re: What does this bid tell you?
Bob Lipton <boblipton@  2008-05-13 07:27:13 
Re: What does this bid tell you?
Sid <elsid@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-13 14:30:06 
Re: What does this bid tell you?
Rob Morris <rm445@[EMA  2008-05-13 13:46:02 
Re: What does this bid tell you?
Henry Lockwood <henry.  2008-05-13 06:38:41 
Re: What does this bid tell you?
"Lorne" <lor  2008-05-13 15:48:18 
Re: What does this bid tell you?
"Thomas Dehn" &  2008-05-13 17:58:10 
Re: What does this bid tell you?
henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-13 10:37:30 
Re: What does this bid tell you?
"Thomas Dehn" &  2008-05-13 21:27:27 
Re: What does this bid tell you?
henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-13 12:34:08 
Re: What does this bid tell you?
"Thomas Dehn" &  2008-05-14 19:07:51 
Re: What does this bid tell you?
Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-13 12:52:07 
Re: What does this bid tell you?
Sid <elsid@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-14 12:28:24 
Re: What does this bid tell you?
Andrew <agumperz@[EMAI  2008-05-13 14:29:18 
Re: What does this bid tell you?
vspoker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-14 19:06:59 

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