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Re: Wanting to learn KS

by henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTECTED] May 12, 2008 at 05:18 PM

On May 12, 4:56 pm, Alan Malloy <alan.NO.S...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> There've been several posts recently mentioning Kaplan-Sheinwold and
> Roth-Stone. It sounds as if KS might be a system that would fit my
> style, but I'm not at all familiar with it. Can anyone point me to a
> good reference for KS, or summarize the general philosophy? I'm not as
> interested in RS, but since they seem to be mentioned together fairly
> often perhaps I should take a look at both anyway.
>
> Obviously I have tried to look around on Google, but there seem to be
> varying descriptions: perhaps "snapshots" from what KS was at a
> particular time? I am hoping for something I could read and absorb, then
> sit down with some RGBer and say "let's play KS", and be mostly on the
> same wavelength.
>
> --
> Thanks,
>      Alan (San Jose, California, USA)

Alan, are you going to the Sac regional?  I can share some stuff with
you there.

The basic resources are, in reverse chronological order:

(1) Edgar Kaplan, Bridge Master, the tribute book to Kaplan, published
by the BW, that contains several original articles on the KS
philosophy

(2) Kaplan-Sheinwold updated, a little booklet that Kaplan and the BW
made available sometime in the 1970s.

(3) The original (?) K-S book, How To Play Winning Bridge, from 1958.
I picked up a hard bound copy used for a couple of bucks, so I imagine
it is still available.

The basic system structure includes weak 1nts (all seats and colors),
light 5-card major opening bids, and sound minor suit opening bids.

KS insists on opening light in the majors, and correspondingly has a
lower threshold for opening 2c with a big hand in the majors.  Here
are some example hands of their view of a 2c opener from the late
1950s:

AKQxxx
AKxxx
A
x

AKQxxx
AKx
Axx
x

Even a hand like

x
KQJxxx
AKxx
Ax

was called by Edgar a KS two club opening bid in his re****t of the US
vs Canada Bermuda Bowl champion****p (Kokish and Silver opened it 1H
instead).

The use of sound opening bids in the minors has three im****tant
corollaries;

first, 1m-1M-2M shows a hand worth the equivalent of a strong 1nt (so
opening 1d and raises to 1s on

Axx
x
AJxxx
Kxxx

is no longer possible. This is in my opinion one of the major weak
spots in the overall system).  Consequently, 1m-1M-3M shows 18-19 and
1m-1M-4M shows 20+.

Second, reverses show strength in the second suit, not length.  As
Kaplan himself writes in KS Updated, discussing the sequence 1m-1M-2r
(where r = reverse suit):

"forcing, but not necessarily a monster, promises rebid over anything
but 3m.  Promises length in m and strength, not length, in reverse
suit (R).  Could even be doubleton, with 2-1/2m rebid, or 2-1/2M with
three trumps, or game raise in M with singleton in fourth suit."

KS uses opener's rebid of the 4th suit to show "game force; a Roth-
Stone reverse; R suit likely natural; probably no stopper since then
3NT."

Although it is not a necessary part of the method, after the reverse
responder's WEAKEST bid is to return to 3m (most 2/1 styles play that
as GF), and a rebid of 2M is unlimited and shows a 5+ or longer suit.
The specific auction 1m-1S-2h-3h is the one exception since responder
must have 5+ spades and 4+ hearts on this auction.

Finally, as discussed elsewhere, KS treats 1d-1M-2c as a reverse, and
uses the sequence 1d-1M-3c to show a minimum two suiter with both
minors.

There is a KS newsgroup or mailing list run, I think, by Adam
Widavsky.

Hope this helps.

Henrysun909
 




 20 Posts in Topic:
Wanting to learn KS
Alan Malloy <alan.NO.S  2008-05-12 16:56:25 
Re: Wanting to learn KS
alvin <apbluthman@[EMA  2008-05-12 17:15:22 
Re: Wanting to learn KS
henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-12 17:18:49 
Re: Wanting to learn KS
Martin Ambuhl <mambuhl  2008-05-12 20:19:41 
Re: Wanting to learn KS
Otis Bricker <obricker  2008-05-13 10:28:06 
Re: Wanting to learn KS
Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-12 17:37:50 
Re: Wanting to learn KS
Nick France <gandalfnf  2008-05-13 07:48:43 
Re: Wanting to learn KS
henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-13 09:24:07 
Re: Wanting to learn KS
Andrew <agumperz@[EMAI  2008-05-13 12:42:47 
Re: Wanting to learn KS
Ron Johnson <johnson@[  2008-05-15 12:12:13 
Re: Wanting to learn KS
Adam Wildavsky <adam@[  2008-05-25 09:15:05 
Re: Wanting to learn KS
henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-25 12:36:00 
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Michael Angelo Ravera <  2008-05-25 13:18:35 
Re: Wanting to learn KS
henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-25 13:50:12 
Re: Wanting to learn KS
Rob Morris <rm445@[EMA  2008-05-25 22:05:19 
Re: Wanting to learn KS
Tim <thg@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-25 14:03:56 
Re: Wanting to learn KS
Michael Angelo Ravera <  2008-06-01 23:33:12 
Re: Wanting to learn KS
OldPalooka <ashutts1@[  2008-06-02 11:37:41 
Re: Wanting to learn KS
Andrew <agumperz@[EMAI  2008-06-02 13:31:20 
Re: Wanting to learn KS
Steve Willner <swillne  2008-06-14 14:10:42 

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