On May 9, 2:20 pm, henrysun...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> On May 9, 10:55 am, Andrew <agump...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 9, 7:29 am, henrysun...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>
> > > On May 9, 7:12 am, Hans Georg Schaathun <ge...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > That would obviously be because he thinks that 2Cx may be the best
> > > spot, and not a `risk' as you call it. I agree that
double-tolerance,
> > > no heart-tolerance, and a spade suit which can play 2S opposite
> > > completely mis-fitting rubbish is a rare scenario, so it makes
> > > sense to assume heart fit.
>
> > > ********************
>
> > > I want my partner's takeout doubles to show sup****t for all unbid
> > > suits.
>
> > > I DO NOT want my partner's takeout doubles to be grounded in the
hope
> > > that partner has a penalty conversion.
>
> > As long as partner can handle the follow ups, and partner's double is
> > sufficiently descriptive that responder can evaluate his hand, why
> > does it matter what he has for his double?
>
> > For example, Give partner this: AKxxxx, Kx, AQxx, x. What would you
> > have him do? Bid 2S? 3S? 2D? 3D? No direct action is a good
> > description of this hand. But a direct double, followed by a
> > correction of 2H to 2S is (as long as partner understands you have not
> > promised 3-card sup****t for hearts). If partner has 5 hearts and a
> > hand just short of a negative double, he can jump to 3H, and you can
> > convert to 3S to offer a choice of strains.
>
> > > Therefore, after 1s (2c) p (p); ?
>
> > > I DO NOT want partner doubling with
>
> > > AKxxxx
> > > xx
> > > AQxx
> > > x
>
> > This is a normal 2S.
>
> > > or
>
> > > AKxxxx
> > > xx
> > > Axxxx
> > > x
>
> > This would be either 2S or 2D depending on which small card you
> > remove.
>
> > > or
>
> > > AKxxxx
> > > xx
> > > AJx
> > > xx
>
> > 2S.
>
> > > or
>
> > > AKxxx
> > > Ax
> > > Kxxx
> > > xx
>
> > > or any hand that does not include at least 3 card sup****t for all
> > > unbid suits.
>
> > Either 2D, or double followed by a pass of 2H.
>
> > But what about stronger hands:
>
> > AKQxx
> > Qx
> > Axxx
> > Kx
>
> > Double then convert 2H to 2NT
>
> > KJTxxx
> > AQ
> > AKxx
> > x
>
> > Double then convert to 2H to 2S, or even 3S.
>
> > On these stronger hands you would be delighted if partner converted
> > and you will have no guarantees of getting to the right spot if your
> > second call is something other than double. So it is acceptable to
> > double without 3-card heart sup****t if you are prepared for the follow
> > up auction.
>
> > Andrew
>
> A reasonable approach, to be sure.
>
> My preference, even with stronger offshape hands, is to bid them
> naturally. So with the hands that you cite:
>
> AKQxx
> Qx
> Axxx
> Kx
>
> AG: Double then convert 2H to 2NT
>
> HS: I'd just reopen with 2d or even 2nt if I were feeling
> courageous. With the Kx of clubs and 18 hcps, it seems unlikely that
> partner has a trap pass,
If you bid 2D on this 18 count and on this 11 count: AQxxx, x, KQxxx,
xx you are putting enormous pressure on partner to guess what to do.
> so if he has values he lacks 3 spades and 4
> hearts. The easiest way for him to show values is to raise 2d to 3d,
> after which I'd have an easy, albeit uncomfortable, 3nt bid.
>
> KJTxxx
> AQ
> AKxx
> x
>
> AG: Double then convert to 2H to 2S, or even 3S.
> HS: Here it is possible that partner has a penalty pass of 2c because
> of my shortness. Still, if I balance with 2d, intending to rebid 3s
> if he raises diamonds or returns to 3s, or 3c if he bids 2nt, at least
> I will get to my making game, wherever it may be.
Unless you play 2D. And why give up the chance to collect a number if
partner has QJxxx of clubs?
Andrew
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