On May 9, 10:55=A0am, Andrew <agump...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 9, 7:29 am, henrysun...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>
> > On May 9, 7:12 am, Hans Georg Schaathun <ge...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > That would obviously be because he thinks that 2Cx may be the best
> > spot, and not a `risk' as you call it. =A0I agree that
double-tolerance,=
> > no heart-tolerance, and a spade suit which can play 2S opposite
> > completely mis-fitting rubbish is a rare scenario, so it makes
> > sense to assume heart fit.
>
> > ********************
>
> > I want my partner's takeout doubles to show sup****t for all unbid
> > suits.
>
> > I DO NOT want my partner's takeout doubles to be grounded in the hope
> > that partner has a penalty conversion.
>
> As long as partner can handle the follow ups, and partner's double is
> sufficiently descriptive that responder can evaluate his hand, why
> does it matter what he has for his double?
>
> For example, Give partner this: AKxxxx, Kx, AQxx, x. What would you
> have him do? Bid 2S? 3S? 2D? 3D? No direct action is a good
> description of this hand. But a direct double, followed by a
> correction of 2H to 2S is (as long as partner understands you have not
> promised 3-card sup****t for hearts). If partner has 5 hearts and a
> hand just short of a negative double, he can jump to 3H, and you can
> convert to 3S to offer a choice of strains.
>
> > Therefore, after 1s (2c) p (p); ?
>
> > I DO NOT want partner doubling with
>
> > AKxxxx
> > xx
> > AQxx
> > x
>
> This is a normal 2S.
>
>
>
> > or
>
> > AKxxxx
> > xx
> > Axxxx
> > x
>
> This would be either 2S or 2D depending on which small card you
> remove.
>
> > or
>
> > AKxxxx
> > xx
> > AJx
> > xx
>
> 2S.
>
> > or
>
> > AKxxx
> > Ax
> > Kxxx
> > xx
>
> > or any hand that does not include at least 3 card sup****t for all
> > unbid suits.
>
> Either 2D, or double followed by a pass of 2H.
>
> But what about stronger hands:
>
> AKQxx
> Qx
> Axxx
> Kx
>
> Double then convert 2H to 2NT
>
> KJTxxx
> AQ
> AKxx
> x
>
> Double then convert to 2H to 2S, or even 3S.
>
> On these stronger hands you would be delighted if partner converted
> and you will have no guarantees of getting to the right spot if your
> second call is something other than double. So it is acceptable to
> double without 3-card heart sup****t if you are prepared for the follow
> up auction.
>
> Andrew
A reasonable approach, to be sure.
My preference, even with stronger offshape hands, is to bid them
naturally. So with the hands that you cite:
AKQxx
Qx
Axxx
Kx
AG: Double then convert 2H to 2NT
HS: I'd just reopen with 2d or even 2nt if I were feeling
courageous. With the Kx of clubs and 18 hcps, it seems unlikely that
partner has a trap pass, so if he has values he lacks 3 spades and 4
hearts. The easiest way for him to show values is to raise 2d to 3d,
after which I'd have an easy, albeit uncomfortable, 3nt bid.
KJTxxx
AQ
AKxx
x
AG: Double then convert to 2H to 2S, or even 3S.
HS: Here it is possible that partner has a penalty pass of 2c because
of my shortness. Still, if I balance with 2d, intending to rebid 3s
if he raises diamonds or returns to 3s, or 3c if he bids 2nt, at least
I will get to my making game, wherever it may be.
Both of these hands would like an involuntary bid from responder
showing strength and fit, because once that happens the hands upgrade
tremdously.
It should also be noted that the actual sequence, 1s (2c) p (p); ? is
the easiest one to control this way. Change the auction to 1s (2h) p
(p); ? and offshape doubles in my opinion become much more dicey.
Clearly, the 'double with sup****t or with a strong enough hand to
control the auction' represents the mainstream view. It is one that
Kleinmann and Straguzzi have issues with, as do I. But since it is
the mainstream view it can hardly be said to be wrong.
Henrysun909
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