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Re: What would you lead? - the story

by Bob Lipton <boblipton@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 9, 2008 at 03:22 PM

Histriadogsilver wrote:
> On May 9, 7:52 pm, Hank Youngerman <dontspa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> the reason I posted that hand, is that these are the hands:
>>
>> Jxx
>> AK
>> AQxxx
>> Axx
>>
>> AQTxxxx
>> xx
>> Jxx
>> x
>>
>> My partner, as declarer, won the low diamond lead with the Ace, lost
>> the spade finesse, and scored a 10% board for making 5.  His later
>> comment was "I should have looked at the guy's profile.  He was an
>> intermediate player, and an intermediate might have led away from the
>> diamond K, but I assumed it had to be a singleton because why risk
>> leading from the King?
>>
>> It's one thing to lead passively yourself.  But I thought it was a bit
>> extreme to assume a far less likely layout (small stiff on his left)
>> than that the opponent might have failed to lead passively.  The small
>> stiff is about a 5% shot, I think.
>>
>> On May 8, 3:25 pm, Hank Youngerman <dontspa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>> Matchpoints, both vul, you hold:
>>> Kx
>>> Txx
>>> Kxx
>>> T8xxx
>>> With your side silent, your LHO opens:
>>> 3S - 4C
>>> 4H - 4S
>>> 4C is keycard, 4H shows one keycard.  (Please ignore the bidding,
>>> there was a mixup - this is what you have been told.)
> 
> I am not a world champion but just look at Hugh Kelsey's, Mike
> Lawrence's and Kantar's books on defense and what they have to say on
> the subject mentioned by your partner i.e. the never ending story that
> you can hear from time to time and it goes: 'never lead away from the
> king'.
> 


Yes, but for an expert, 'never'  isn't as long as for a beginner.



Let's reduce this to a simple solution:  you can, let us say, eliminate 
one suit from consideration.  Your other choices are trumps, and you 
know they have at least eight and not more than nine cards in it.  You 
have low doubleton.   The other two suits are each K42, and you are told 
specifically that leading one side suit will gain a trick and one will 
lose a trick and the trump lead will break even.  Which do you lead?

You may suffer and stew over it, but I lead the trump.  Why?  Well, the 
gain one-lose-one equation will break even on guessing at MP AND 
DECLARER MIGHT BOTCH THE PLAY WITHOUT IT. In other words, it's not win 
one lose one,  a straight 50% shot, it's win one 48%, lose one 52%.  Or 
maybe more. And, of course given the foog of war, you don't know this 
specifically; any of these leads might be right in real life, since you 
may be stopping a ruff.  And of course, it doesn't matter whether you're 
winning eight tricks with the neutral lead or 12,  you expect the field 
to be at about the same level.

That's at MP, of course.  At IMPs the equation changes dramatically. 
You tell me once again that the trump lead lets the contract make on the 
nose, while underleading one of the kings sets it and leading the other 
will let the overtrick make, you will see me stewing and finally 
underleading a king.  Nominally I have a 50% chance of letting an 
overtrick through, which will give up an IMP, but I also have a 50% 
chance of setting the contract, which can range from five IMPs (partial 
contract vulnerable) to seventeen IMPs (6 of a major or NT.... and if 
you include grand slams, it's more). I will take any even odd bet when 
the other side is offering between five and seventeen to one odd.  It's 
what makes Lightner Doubles worthwhile.


That's why I prefer IMPs:  at IMPs the payoff comes when you're right. 
At MP it comes when you're simply not wrong.   It feels better, too.

Bob
 




 30 Posts in Topic:
What would you lead?
Hank Youngerman <donts  2008-05-08 12:25:18 
Re: What would you lead?
Bob Lipton <boblipton@  2008-05-08 15:54:52 
Re: What would you lead?
dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 13:27:04 
Re: What would you lead?
Adam Beneschan <adam@[  2008-05-08 14:16:24 
Re: What would you lead?
Bill Jacobs <bill.jaco  2008-05-08 22:51:09 
Re: What would you lead?
Hank Youngerman <donts  2008-05-08 16:40:30 
Re: What would you lead?
Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-08 17:02:59 
Re: What would you lead?
Gary Seckinger <gsecki  2008-05-08 22:02:11 
Re: What would you lead?
Charles Brenner <cbren  2008-05-08 22:53:37 
Re: What would you lead?
Free <fstaelens@[EMAIL  2008-05-09 00:31:19 
Re: What would you lead?
dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 09:24:35 
Re: What would you lead?
Hank Youngerman <donts  2008-05-09 05:39:07 
Re: What would you lead? - the story
Hank Youngerman <donts  2008-05-09 10:52:20 
Re: What would you lead? - the story
grbridgeREMOVETHIS@[EMAIL  2008-05-10 10:24:01 
Re: What would you lead? - the story
Alan Malloy <alan.NO.S  2008-05-10 03:17:28 
Re: What would you lead? - the story
Bob Lipton <boblipton@  2008-05-10 08:05:26 
Re: What would you lead? - the story
Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-09 11:15:02 
Re: What would you lead? - the story
"raija d" <m  2008-05-11 09:06:11 
Re: What would you lead? - the story
CBFalconer <cbfalconer  2008-05-12 22:33:09 
Re: What would you lead? - the story
Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-09 11:17:21 
Re: What would you lead? - the story
Bob Lipton <boblipton@  2008-05-09 15:22:40 
Re: What would you lead? - the story
Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-09 15:41:50 
Re: What would you lead? - the story
henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-09 17:37:28 
Re: What would you lead? - the story
Eric Leong <ewleongusa  2008-05-10 05:22:44 
Re: What would you lead? - the story
Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-10 15:59:40 
Re: What would you lead?
"Kieran Dyke" &  2008-05-11 19:57:45 
Re: What would you lead? - the story
Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-11 09:31:06 
Re: What would you lead? - the story
Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-11 10:09:04 
Re: What would you lead? - the story
Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-11 12:48:58 
Re: What would you lead? - the story
Eric Leong <ewleongusa  2008-05-11 23:25:36 

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