On May 8, 6:02 pm, OldPalooka <ashut...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 7, 12:20 pm, Histriadogsilver <andjelka.rich...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On May 7, 3:15 am, "Jeffrey" <slesse...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > Hi all
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> > > N E S W
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> > > P P 1C 1H
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> > > 1S 3H 4S p
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> > > 5H P ?
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> > > You hold AKQx AJTx x Qxxx
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> > > Your Bid?
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> > > Partner showed 5 spades and the 3 Heart bid was preemptive.
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> > > MPS
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> > > Jeff
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> > What if partner is holding xxxxx --- Kxxx KQxx isn't he going to pass?
> > In my opinion there is a case for expecting partner to cue-bid a king
> > instead of an ace after you have shown a strong hand like this with
> > your 4S raise and he has not open his hand despite holding a void. And
> > anyway show me a hand in which he will not raise to game an
> > invitational 3S raise when holding a void. Perhaps this one?: xxxxx
> > --- xxxx Kxxx, I guess a 1S response by him with the shown hand is not
> > as insane as it looks nevertheless he can still envision a possible
> > doublefit in clubs and spades or superfit in spades looking at your 1C
> > opening bid. So why bidding 4S at once at all, why overbidding at all
> > when you are holding an obviously wasted heart ace/jack there, partner
> > has obviously a heart void. What if partner is holding xxxxx --- KQxx
> > KQxx, is he going to pass? He is not holding an ace in either minor.
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> > Boris Richter
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> So you get to a slam off two aces with no play. Deal 1000 hands with
> 5 or 6 spades, heart void, and 8-10 HCP and see how many hold 2 kings
> and no aces.
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> Besides don't your rp's tell partner to downgrade his diamonds? P
> opened 1C, and bid 4S. Opp's bidding place partner with probable 3 or
> 4 hearts. How many diamonds does he hold?
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> == Bill Shutts
The RiP count is suggesting us that this hand:AKQx AJTx x Qxxx
has 12,5 RiP (13 are needed for bidding game), furthermore after their
3H raise the value of the heart jack vanishes and we now have 12 RiPs,
with 11-12 RiPs you should be inviting game and not bidding game.
Nevertheless with:AKQx JTxx x AQxx and with the knowledge your
partner is void in hearts your hand goes from 12,5 to 12 to 15 RiPs
when adding 3 points for the working void+superfit. This suggests that
game has play if partner has no points, just by adding his initial 3
distributional points for the void he is holding we are getting to 18
points. (18 points = ten tricks;20=11 and so on).
So long
Boris Richter
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