Re: What Do You Bid with AKx, x, AJ8x, AQJ7x?

On May 6, 7:44=A0pm, Eric Leong <ewleong...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 6, 7:07=A0am, Will in New Haven <bill.re...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On May 6, 10:02=A0am, Eric Leong <ewleong...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On May 5, 2:17=A0pm, Andrew <agump...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > On May 5, 1:31 am, Andrew <agump...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > Vul on Vul
> > > > > online IMP Pairs
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> > > > > You hold:
> > > > > S: AKx
> > > > > H: x
> > > > > D: AJ8x
> > > > > C: AQJ7x
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> > > > > Auction:
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> > > > > South =A0 =A0 West =A0 =A0 North =A0 =A0 East
> > > > > (1D) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0P =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(1S) =A0 =A0 =A0 ?
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> > > > > Andrew
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> > > > Thanks everyone for their opinions. At the table, the chickens
win.
> > > > The full hand was:
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> > > > Jxxx
> > > > QT987
> > > > xx
> > > > xx
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> > > > AKx
> > > > x
> > > > AJ8x
> > > > AQJ7x
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> > > > The actual auction went:
> > > > =A0South =A0 =A0 West =A0 =A0 North =A0 =A0 East
> > > > =A0(1D) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0P =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(1S) =A0 =A0 =A0 ?
> > > > =A0(1N) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0P =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(P) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 X
> > > > =A0(2C) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0P =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(2D) =A0 =A0 =A0 X
> > > > =A0(P) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A02H =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(P) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 2N
> > > > =A0All pass
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> > > > Further comments?
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> > > > Andrew
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> > > What was the double of 2D?
> > > Even if partner has a zero count you want to defend 2D.
> > > But if you double 2D what do you think partner is going to do?
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> > > Eric Leong-
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> > He should pass. Hands like this, when they come up, depend greatly on
> > partner****p discipline. At least when I doubled 1NT, after not
> > doubling 1S or bidding 2C, he should know I am not interested in five-
> > card heart suit. Maybe he could bid a Spade suit if he had one.
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> Certainly, if you are playing with your clone you can try for perhaps
> the extra 300.
> Perhaps, playing with someone who is not your clone who you are
> uncertain that he might not see the hand the same way you do there is
> far more risk to turn being +200 into -200 for a 400 net loss.
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That's actually rather profound and I don't say that sarcastically. It
is an admirable insight into bridge partner****ps.

I had one partner, not counting my brother, I would have expected to
pass and I would have done exactly what I said and we would have
probably gotten the extra three hundred. He wasn't my clone but Scott
and I played a lot of bridge together and he understood how I thought
about this type of auction and had the temperment to take the good
with the bad. One of my current partners has the temperment but we
haven't played together that much and the other one would panic and
bid 2H as sure as I am sitting here, even though she KNOWS the way
this kind of hand probably works. So I wouldn't double with either of
them. I'd double with my brother Sid and trust him to work it out. We
have been playing together for fifty years, but we don't play together
often. He doesn't play very often at all.

But just because Scott Loring passed away and my brother almost never
plays doesn't make my thinking wrong on the hand, just eccentric.


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Will in New Haven