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Re: What Do You Bid with AKx, x, AJ8x, AQJ7x?

by henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTECTED] May 6, 2008 at 01:55 PM

On May 6, 6:55 am, Eric Leong <ewleong...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:


Well Eric, I sent Andy's problem to Rubens at the BW.  His response
was that he didn't feel too strongly about bidding or passing 2C; that
the upside of 2c was probably a small plus our way (presumably in 3c)
whereas the upside of passing is a small plus defending the final
contract.  He himself opined that he would probably pass but would in
no way consider bidding 2c an error.

There are, beliieve it not, places where experienced bridge players -
even those who don't run or didn't run a publi****ng house and do not
have the financial wherewithall to play with professional players -
even so, there are places where experienced bridge players can
disagree, whether due to temperment (I want to get my bid in fast and
early and not have to worry about it later and thus I am a busy
bidder, especially in obstructive situations) or other factors.

You can think that passing 1s is clearly right and a long term
simulation might show that you are right.  I never said, anywhere,
that passing was obviously wrong.

I will stand by my claim that the assertion that passing has no
downside and bidding has no upside is however obviously wrong.

(I could insert some snide comment such as 'how are we to know that
they don't have

JT9xx
QJTx
x
xxx

Qxx
AKxx
xxxx
KT

where we might be on for 5d (lose a heart and a club, but that would
be uncalled for).

Henrysun909
 




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What Do You Bid with AKx, x, AJ8x, AQJ7x?
Andrew <agumperz@[EMAI  2008-05-05 01:31:50 
Re: What Do You Bid with AKx, x, AJ8x, AQJ7x?
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_St  2008-05-05 02:15:37 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_St  2008-05-05 02:20:24 
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BBO expert <nym@[EMAIL  2008-05-05 10:57:28 
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Gerben Dirksen <gerben  2008-05-05 02:21:39 
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John Hall <nospam_nov0  2008-05-05 10:55:53 
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Eric Leong <ewleongusa  2008-05-05 04:10:13 
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Bob Lipton <boblipton@  2008-05-05 07:34:24 
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henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-05 05:21:28 
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Bob Lipton <boblipton@  2008-05-05 08:48:29 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-05 05:40:05 
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henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-05 05:52:53 
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BBO expert <nym@[EMAIL  2008-05-05 11:04:27 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-05 05:53:59 
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henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-05 05:56:14 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-05 07:12:53 
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henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-05 07:22:23 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-05 07:37:05 
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Eric Leong <ewleongusa  2008-05-05 07:48:27 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-05 08:00:54 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-05 08:02:40 
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"raija d" <m  2008-05-05 09:12:15 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-05 09:23:21 
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"raija d" <m  2008-05-05 10:00:10 
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henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-05 10:05:35 
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Bob Lipton <boblipton@  2008-05-05 15:10:02 
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Nick France <gandalfnf  2008-05-05 10:47:03 
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Andrew <agumperz@[EMAI  2008-05-05 10:57:00 
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"raija d" <m  2008-05-05 11:49:49 
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Bob Lipton <boblipton@  2008-05-05 15:12:00 
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Bill Jacobs <bill.jaco  2008-05-06 06:09:54 
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John Hall <nospam_nov0  2008-05-05 19:06:31 
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Travis Crump <pretzalz  2008-05-05 18:34:29 
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Andrew <agumperz@[EMAI  2008-05-05 11:25:54 
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Kevin Podsiadlik <KPod  2008-05-05 11:41:09 
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"Thomas Dehn" &  2008-05-05 20:37:26 
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Alan Malloy <alan.NO.S  2008-05-05 11:47:20 
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John Hall <nospam_nov0  2008-05-05 19:50:29 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-05 11:56:05 
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"raija d" <m  2008-05-05 12:10:52 
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edelman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-07 16:35:13 
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henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-05 12:11:56 
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OldPalooka <ashutts1@[  2008-05-05 13:10:46 
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edelman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-08 16:10:43 
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Andrew <agumperz@[EMAI  2008-05-05 14:17:10 
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Bob Lipton <boblipton@  2008-05-05 17:29:35 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-05 14:55:45 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-05 15:30:09 
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henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-05 15:32:55 
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ted <morristed@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 16:36:30 
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Will in New Haven <bil  2008-05-05 17:07:08 
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dake50@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-06 06:53:16 
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Eric Leong <ewleongusa  2008-05-06 06:55:35 
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Eric Leong <ewleongusa  2008-05-06 07:02:05 
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Will in New Haven <bil  2008-05-06 07:07:27 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-06 07:26:54 
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Kevin Podsiadlik <KPod  2008-05-06 12:30:04 
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henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-06 13:55:11 
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Eric Leong <ewleongusa  2008-05-06 16:44:29 
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Will in New Haven <bil  2008-05-07 06:27:24 
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henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-07 07:47:39 
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Will in New Haven <bil  2008-05-07 08:08:29 
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henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-07 09:34:01 
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Eric Leong <ewleongusa  2008-05-07 21:43:42 
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OldPalooka <ashutts1@[  2008-05-08 09:21:48 
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Andrew <agumperz@[EMAI  2008-05-09 01:22:11 
Re: What Do You Bid with AKx, x, AJ8x, AQJ7x?
henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-09 10:46:53 

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