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Re: I've been wondering

by Andrew <agumperz@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 6, 2008 at 11:43 AM

On May 5, 9:38 pm, "Blind Broccoli" <blindbrocc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >><snip>
> >> That said, is anyone playing and winning using anything like
> >> old-fa****oned
> >> Acol in high level international tournaments or major national
> >> champion****ps?
>
> > I sure don't know of any.
>
> >> Or do all the experts who want to play serious bridge play
> >> complex methods with most bidding sequences tightly defined?
>
> > Yes.
>
> > There is nothing terribly wrong with old fa****oned methods--they work
> > pretty well most of the time. My guess is an expert pair using good
> > modern methods has a moderate advantage, perhaps 1-2 board per
> > session, over an expert pair using old fa****oned methods. If Reese and
> > Shapiro reincarnate and use their 1940's methods in a top tournament,
> > their play and defense skill will be large enough to overcome that
> > disadvantage occasionally, especially in sessions where few of the
> > awkward hands for their system come up. But they would win more by
> > adopting modern methods. And when your income depends on winning,
> > winning more is a very good thing.
>
> > Andrew
>
> Many thanks to all who responded to my question and even those who
didn't
> since some interesting side roads were explored.
>
> I have my answer and I am not wondering any more. And thanks to Gerben
for
> his reply also.
>
> I do notice that when top pairs play top pairs they seem to do a lot
more
> ba****ng whatever their system framework. They know that anything they
say
> can and will be used against them on defense. And they love the
> psychological effect of making an unmakeable contract. But by and large
they
> convey all necessary information to arrive at the best contract, even
when
> the opponents are listening in.
>
> BB

In general, they bash to games and bid scientifically to slams.

IMO, the two most im****tant changes since the 1940's are:
1. Good scientific tools for slam bidding
2. much better tools for competitive bidding (AKA the near death of
the penalty double)


A.
 




 23 Posts in Topic:
I've been wondering
"Blind Broccoli"  2008-05-04 15:59:02 
Re: I've been wondering
henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-04 10:11:37 
Re: I've been wondering
=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-04 23:42:07 
Re: I've been wondering
Tim <thg@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-04 14:58:19 
Re: I've been wondering
=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-05 14:21:00 
Re: I've been wondering
henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-04 16:59:43 
Re: I've been wondering
Bob Lipton <boblipton@  2008-05-04 21:08:55 
Re: I've been wondering
=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-05 15:00:04 
Re: I've been wondering
henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-05 05:49:16 
Re: I've been wondering
Bob Lipton <boblipton@  2008-05-05 09:17:02 
Re: I've been wondering
BBO expert <nym@[EMAIL  2008-05-05 10:44:17 
Re: I've been wondering
henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-05 06:22:40 
Re: I've been wondering
BBO expert <nym@[EMAIL  2008-05-05 10:53:35 
Re: I've been wondering
Rob Morris <rm445@[EMA  2008-05-05 15:12:42 
Re: I've been wondering
=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-05 17:05:29 
Re: I've been wondering
Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-04 12:04:25 
Re: I've been wondering
Andrew <agumperz@[EMAI  2008-05-04 16:17:56 
Re: I've been wondering
"Blind Broccoli"  2008-05-06 04:38:57 
Re: I've been wondering
Andrew <agumperz@[EMAI  2008-05-06 11:43:20 
Re: I've been wondering
CBFalconer <cbfalconer  2008-05-04 22:00:18 
Re: I've been wondering
Tim <thg@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-04 20:34:50 
Re: I've been wondering
CBFalconer <cbfalconer  2008-05-05 03:16:27 
Re: I've been wondering
Gerben Dirksen <gerben  2008-05-05 06:57:42 

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