Re: What Do You Bid with AKx, x, AJ8x, AQJ7x?

On May 5, 2:56 pm, henrysun...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> On May 5, 5:48 am, Bob Lipton <boblip...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > henrysun...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> > > On May 5, 1:31 am, Andrew <agump...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > >> Vul on Vul
> > >> online IMP Pairs
>
> > >> You hold:
> > >> S: AKx
> > >> H: x
> > >> D: AJ8x
> > >> C: AQJ7x
>
> > >> Auction:
>
> > >> South     West     North     East
> > >> (1D)        P          (1S)       ?
>
> > >> Andrew
>
> > > 2c,  What's the problem?
>
> > > For the folks who think that pass is clear, because the odds are
that
> > > we won't make game, I would agree with them.
>
> > > Still, is it so much to ask for
>
> > > xx
> > > xxxx
> > > xxxx
> > > Kxx
>
> > > where we can contest the auction and perhaps drive the opponents to
> > > the 3 level, where we might set them?  +100 versus -110 is still a
> > > decent swing.
>
> > well, henry, if either  north or south find 2H, whatcha gonna do?  And
> > if there is a raise to 2S, you can still bid 3C.  Now you don't even
> > need the CK -- the DQ will do, as you can ruff a spade in the dummy.
>
> > Bob
>
> True enough.  I didn't say that passing was unreasonable.
>
> I said that passing because you aren't likely to score game was bad
> reasoning.  For me, contesting partials is a sound reason for getting
> in their auction.
>
> But to answer your question, if somehow the opponents find 2h, I'll
> double that for takeout, having already shown my long clubs, and that
> would I think provide a pretty good description of my hand - short
> hearts, primary clubs, secondary sup****t for the pointed suits (in
> case partner has the Kxxxx and LHO opened a short or weak diamond),
> and an obviously good hand to bid twice opposite a silent partner in
> the face of opponents bidding on and on and on.
>
> Henrysun909

I completely understand your point of view but with:
xxx
J9xxxx
xxx
x
In some partner****p you would here the 2H weak jump overcall.
Admittedly a light one, but some partner****ps are playing very light
weak jumps nowadays for various reasons. And besides the problem may
occur if the auction goes:

South     West     North     East
 (1D)        P          (1S)       2C
 (2S)        P          (3S*)       ?

3S* = preemptive reraise

Boris