Re: What's wrong with the Roth point count?

On May 4, 7:49 am, Stig Holmquist <stigfjor...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

I tell them an opening one bid guarantees 10 HCP plus two quick tricks
and in addition 3 points from extra HCP, long points and or quick
tricks for a total of 15 points. I've abandoned the Goren short suit
count and instead teach 1 point for each card over four in majors but
only in minors if the suit has 5 HCP.It may seem consevative, but
that's what  novices need, since they have no sound judgment. It helps
them to bid makable contracts. It also keeps them from opening with
junk, such as QJx-QJx-KJxxx-QJ, which has 14 points.

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An opening 1-bid guarantees 10 hcps? So this hand, opened by both
Meckwell and Zia in the 1981 Bermuda Bowl, is not an opening bid:

JTxxx
VOID
AQTxxxx
x

1 length point for every card over 4 in the majors, but no length
points unless the suit has 5 hcps in a minor?  so

AKx
VOID
KJT
KJTxxxx

gets zero length points, but

xxxxx
xxxxx
VOID
AKx

gets 2?  Does that seem even close to being intuitively right to you?

Well, good luck teaching your students - I actually mean that, there
is much good to be done in teaching people to enjoy a great game.  If
they buy it, then good for them.

Just please don't publish your findings lest they be ripped apart by
someone as anti-Stig as you are anti-Audrey.

Henrysun909