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Re: Quick question for any directors out there please.

by David Stevenson <bridge2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 2, 2008 at 12:16 PM

Steve Foster wrote
>David Stevenson wrote:
>
>> Steve Foster wrote
>> >>  Incidentally, why would 11C11 be redundant?
>> >
>> > Because I combined it into a revised 11C2 (see I was already
>> > thinking about your "consistent style" without even realising it).
>>
>> So now you are making it even less consistent.  I really dislike
>> that. People who know how it is laid out - hardly rocket science -
>> may now miss it.
>
>Huh? All discussion of the 1C opening would be in one subsection (just
>as with the minimum strength data). It would be impossible to "miss"
>anything, since there'd be no separation of information.

  That's not true.  It is "impossible" to miss the minimum permitted
strength now because it is all in one section - but someone has.

>There is precedent for being specific about levels already - look at
>the "mixing types" subsections 11J2, 11J5 and 11J7. These are clear as
>to which level they really mean (and by corollary force a reader to
>keep looking for a relevant statement above level 2, since the "all
>levels" statement then self-limits to only level 2). 11J7 even has a
>completely redundant "at level 4" in it.

  I do not think this is helpful.  You are trying to bare things down
but then people will misunderstand them.

>They are not consistent with the style of 11C1/9/10 and 11C2/11.
>
>> > A 3rd solution would be to split the chapter into subchapters and
>> > explicitly cover each level separately in full (doing away with "all
>> > levels" and "3/4"), and duplicating the common information. Yes, I
>> > know duplication isn't a good thing, but it would be worth it for
>> > the clarity. It'd make it easier to avoid situations like the one
>> > that started this thread.
>>
>> This was suggested and turned down very quickly.  Much longer, and
>> often very unhelpful, when people want ot know when they may play
>> something: you are back ot the bad old days of having  to look in
>> many different places.
>
>Huh? This is exactly the problem we have now. Information on what's
>allowed at level 3 (and 4) is not in one place. It is spread out
>between the "all levels" sections, and the more specific 3/4 and 4 only
>sections.

  It is exactly ***not*** the problem we have now.  1C openings are
***together***.

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Quick question for any directors out there please.
darren.cotterell@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 04:29:19 
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Henry Lockwood <henry.  2008-04-28 04:56:27 
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Hank Youngerman <donts  2008-04-28 05:08:31 
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Bob Lipton <boblipton@  2008-04-28 08:09:29 
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darren.cotterell@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 05:16:29 
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"Lorne" <lor  2008-04-28 16:17:04 
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darren.cotterell@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 05:20:05 
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Stephen Fischer <steph  2008-04-29 00:17:13 
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"Steven Gibbs"   2008-04-28 13:26:30 
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Stephen Fischer <steph  2008-04-29 00:23:17 
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Stephen Fischer <steph  2008-04-29 00:25:23 
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Robin Barker <Robin.Ba  2008-04-28 05:27:22 
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darren.cotterell@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 05:31:40 
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Robin Barker <Robin.Ba  2008-04-28 05:35:08 
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darren.cotterell@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 05:36:16 
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Robin Barker <Robin.Ba  2008-04-28 05:37:06 
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darren.cotterell@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 05:41:29 
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darren.cotterell@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 05:43:47 
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Tim <thg@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-28 06:04:03 
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darren.cotterell@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 07:00:45 
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blackshoe <blackshoe@[  2008-04-28 07:18:04 
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darren.cotterell@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 07:22:41 
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Stephen Fischer <steph  2008-04-29 00:28:45 
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BBO expert <nym@[EMAIL  2008-04-28 11:44:30 
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Rob Morris <rm445@[EMA  2008-04-28 16:30:06 
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BBO expert <nym@[EMAIL  2008-04-28 13:38:21 
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darren.cotterell@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 07:39:08 
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zorak@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-28 17:40:11 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-28 16:10:39 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-28 16:16:33 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-28 16:22:31 
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darren.cotterell@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 08:30:12 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-28 16:34:48 
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"Kieran Dyke" &  2008-04-29 15:07:13 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-28 16:36:35 
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OldPalooka <ashutts1@[  2008-04-28 10:19:59 
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BBO expert <nym@[EMAIL  2008-04-28 14:38:28 
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OldPalooka <ashutts1@[  2008-04-28 10:38:36 
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darren.cotterell@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 10:50:32 
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BBO expert <nym@[EMAIL  2008-04-28 15:24:19 
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darren.cotterell@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 11:12:57 
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Stephen Fischer <steph  2008-04-29 07:35:29 
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Adam Beneschan <adam@[  2008-04-28 12:28:19 
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darren.cotterell@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 15:51:47 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-29 01:58:57 
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"Steve Foster"   2008-04-29 13:29:13 
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Rob Morris <rm445@[EMA  2008-04-29 17:37:19 
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Steve Willner <swillne  2008-05-03 14:40:50 
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"Kieran Dyke" &  2008-04-29 15:06:03 
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Rob Morris <rm445@[EMA  2008-04-29 10:40:12 
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Peter Smulders <dev0@[  2008-04-29 12:55:32 
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Rob Morris <rm445@[EMA  2008-04-29 13:13:39 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-29 13:23:50 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-29 13:24:59 
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"Kieran Dyke" &  2008-04-30 08:26:08 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-29 15:38:04 
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"Steve Foster"   2008-04-30 10:08:47 
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darren.cotterell@[EMAIL P  2008-04-29 09:03:10 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-30 16:17:09 
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BBO expert <nym@[EMAIL  2008-04-30 13:06:14 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-30 16:22:55 
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"Steve Foster"   2008-05-01 00:17:22 
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Will in New Haven <bil  2008-04-30 08:31:35 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-30 16:27:50 
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"Steve Foster"   2008-05-01 00:03:29 
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Robin Barker <Robin.Ba  2008-04-30 09:33:14 
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BBO expert <nym@[EMAIL  2008-04-30 14:43:12 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-30 18:04:21 
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ian.payn@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-01 02:14:39 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-05-02 12:16:01 
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"Steve Foster"   2008-05-06 10:51:05 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-05-08 03:50:18 
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"Steve Foster"   2008-05-08 09:59:34 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-05-08 17:55:20 
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"Steve Foster"   2008-05-09 12:13:14 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-05-13 01:52:24 
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"Steve Foster"   2008-05-13 13:52:56 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-05-13 22:24:29 
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"Steve Foster"   2008-05-14 13:41:25 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-05-14 16:23:56 

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