Re: Please Explain post allert procedure

On May 1, 8:20=A0am, Adam Beneschan <a...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Apr 30, 5:31 pm, "Steve Foster" <stevefos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > BBO expert wrote:
> > > Steve Foster wrote:
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> > > > David Stevenson wrote:
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> > > >> Steve Foster wrote
> > > >> > Mark Brader wrote:
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> > > >> > > Michael Ravera writes:
> > > >> >>> In the ACBL, it's 3NT or above beginning with Opener's second
> > > >> call.
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> > > >> > > Again, no. =A0It's bids *above 3NT* beginning with opener's
> > > second >> > > call.
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> > > >> > I assume you meant after the *initial call*, or did you mean
> > > that: =A0>> >
> > > >> > 1H - 4NT
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> > > >> > requires an alert in the ACBL?
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> > > >> =A0Can I ask why you assume he means something entirely different
> > > form >> what he says?
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> > > > Because the whole topic has been confusing with multiple
> > > > inaccuracies and corrections (and one of the "laws" of usenet is
> > > > that any corrective post inevitably contains an error itself), and
> > > > the outlined treatment is quite different than here in EBUland
> > > > where the 4NT in my posted auction would not be alertable (AIUI,
> > > > under any cir***stances).
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> > > It wouldn't be alertable in ACBL-land, either, provided it's
> > > Ace-asking. =A0That's why both posters said "beginning with opener's
> > > second call". =A0If it was alertable, it would be alerted
immediately.=

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> > But the 4NT bid in my example occurs *before* "opener's second call".
> > Therefore, by the "opener's second call" statements, it *would* be
> > alertable in the ACBL (regardless of meaning).
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> > And I don't think that's what they meant to say. Which is why I asked.
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> If by "they" you meant Mark (and maybe Michael)... no, that's not what
> they meant to say, and I think you took their posts out of context.
> In a discussion group like this, you can't expect everyone to restate
> everything they know about the ongoing discussion every time they
> post, so sometimes when you read a post you have to look at previous
> posts in order to follow the plot.

A immedaite 4NT response over a suit opener that doesn't ask for aces
or a 4C bid that does or a 4C immediate response to a no trump (at
least 1NT and 2NT. There is a conflict in the alert procedures about
3NT-4C) opener that doesn't ask for aces or an immedaite 4NT repsonse
that does should be alerted in time.

I stand corrected by the way that delayed alerts begin at 4C not 3NT
as I had said earlier.