On 4/30/2008 2:25 AM, Henry Lockwood wrote:
> On 30 Apr, 01:21, "Jeffrey" <slesse...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Hi Group nv v nv at matchpoints.
>>
>> Assuming you pass in second seat.
>>
>> You hold x AQxxx Kxxxx JT
>>
>> p - p - 3S - p
>>
>> p - ?
>>
>> Do you balance ?
>>
>> Jeff
>
> Firstly, I already opened this unless we're playing a very sound
> style. Secondly, I want to know how ludicrous my LHO's pre-empts
> are. If they're really ratty, I balance (with a X; pulling 4C to 4D).
>
> I think the S suit rates to be 7-3-2-1 or 7-4-1-1, and partner will
> only leave the X in with AQx or KJxx in spades. He's also likely to
> have some values elsewhere; worst case I can think of is that he's
> 4-2-2-5 or similar, but with small spades. At IMPs, I pass, as +50
> seems likely enough.
>
> Of course, the problem is avoided if you play takeout overcalls: you
> can bid 4C, giving partner choice of red suits.
Do takeout overcalls really avoid the problem here? I can see that you
get to tell partner immediately about your red two-suiter, which is
nice. But you force your partner****p to play at the four level, when RHO
can be just short of opening, and LHO a very heavy third-seat preempt.
If you double for takeout, partner can pass with spades, and you can
correct 4c to 4d, showing a red two-suiter. Of course this also forces
you to play at the 4-level if partner has a bad hand, but at least you
get the option to defend.
So I don't see what takeout overcalls get you, except giving up the
option of defending.
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Cheers,
Alan (San Jose, California, USA)
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