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Re: S:JT H:KT63 D:A72 C:9764, ok, what happens next...?

by Charles Brenner <cbrenner@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 29, 2008 at 03:42 PM

On Apr 29, 12:57 pm, Andrew <agump...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 3:06 am, Histriadogsilver <andjelka.rich...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 29, 7:22 am, Charles Brenner <cbren...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 28, 12:50 pm, Andrew <agump...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 28, 10:33 am, Histriadogsilver
<andjelka.rich...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > West   North   East   South
> > > > >  ------      1H       p        2H ( constructive raise otherwise
1N F1
> > > > > with subsequent 2H rebid)
> > > > >    p        2S!!      p         ?
>
> > > > > The bid of 2S!! is showing a shortness somewhere. What do you do
now?
>
> > > > > A.) You ask with 2N since you are interested in knowing in which
suit
> > > > > the shortness is
> > > > > B.) You deny the invitation with 3H since your hand has minimum
values
> > > > > for the shown raise
> > > > > C.) You just blast to game
>
> > > > > I'll show you partner's hand later.
>
> > > > > Boris
>
> > > > I am glad I bid 2H instead of making partner guess by using a
Bergen
> > > > 3C. Now I ask for the shortness. If opener has a minor suit
singleton,
> > > > I have an obvious game bid. If opener has shortness in spades, I
will
> > > > sign off in 3H.
>
> > > > The key to the hand is the short suit total (total of length in
the
> > > > partner****p's two shortest suits). If partner has a minor suit
> > > > singleton, then the short suit total is 3. With a short suit total
of
> > > > 3, I will require only 20 working HCP to make game (of which I can
> > > > provide 7 or 8 working HCP).
>
> > > > If instead partner has a stiff spade, then the short suit total is
> > > > probably 4 (since my doubleton spade is wasted and the
partner****p's
> > > > next shortest suit is probably 3). With a short suit total of 4,
the
> > > > partner****p will require an extra working king to make game. Since
I
> > > > have only 7 working HCP, opener will need approximately 16 HCP
outside
> > > > of spades and 16 HCP plus a stiff is a game bid, not an invite.
>
> > > > Andrew
>
> > > Intriguing notion, "short suit total", and new to me. Can you expand
> > > -- e.g. the bidding rules, the origin of this idea, and the
> > > justification for the stated thresholds? Google got me nothing so
I'm
> > > stuck.
>
> > > Charles
>
> > I suspect Andrew was describing a concept well described in the link
> > below:
>
> >http://www.newbridgelaw.com/
>
> > Cheers
> > Boris
>
> I was. Here is another link about it:
>
> http://www.bridgetoday.com/news/news_fought_law2.php

Thanks. I had read this a while back but not studied it and
consequently forgot the ideas. Bad priorities I guess.

Charles
 




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S:JT H:KT63 D:A72 C:9764, ok, what happens next...?
Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-04-28 10:33:53 
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vspoker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-28 12:29:54 
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Will in New Haven <bil  2008-04-28 12:47:56 
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Andrew <agumperz@[EMAI  2008-04-28 12:50:09 
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hoffman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-28 12:58:28 
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Charles Brenner <cbren  2008-04-28 12:59:35 
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"raija d" <m  2008-04-28 18:01:54 
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Eric Leong <ewleongusa  2008-04-28 13:30:46 
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Andrew <agumperz@[EMAI  2008-04-28 13:54:21 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-04-28 16:24:10 
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"Lorne" <lor  2008-04-29 01:53:31 
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"Kieran Dyke" &  2008-04-29 15:01:19 
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Charles Brenner <cbren  2008-04-28 22:22:47 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-04-29 03:06:48 
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Eric Leong <ewleongusa  2008-04-29 03:11:09 
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"Kieran Dyke" &  2008-04-29 21:41:03 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-04-29 03:43:47 
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henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-29 04:19:55 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-04-29 04:25:30 
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henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-29 05:04:10 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-04-29 05:22:48 
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"Thomas Dehn" &  2008-04-29 20:01:43 
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Andrew <agumperz@[EMAI  2008-04-29 12:57:35 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-04-29 13:43:49 
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"Thomas Dehn" &  2008-04-30 19:28:08 
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Andrew <agumperz@[EMAI  2008-04-29 13:45:36 
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Bob Lipton <boblipton@  2008-04-29 17:14:44 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-04-29 14:50:56 
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Charles Brenner <cbren  2008-04-29 15:42:41 
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Andrew <agumperz@[EMAI  2008-04-29 17:11:05 
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ted <morristed@[EMAIL   2008-04-29 20:22:13 
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henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-29 20:42:59 
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vspoker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-30 10:50:17 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-04-30 11:53:03 
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OldPalooka <ashutts1@[  2008-04-30 13:39:34 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-04-30 14:18:35 
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Bob Lipton <boblipton@  2008-04-30 17:30:10 
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"raija d" <m  2008-04-30 14:45:45 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-04-30 14:35:00 
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vspoker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 16:40:56 
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Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-05-01 17:37:56 
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Alan Malloy <alan.NO.S  2008-05-01 17:56:41 
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henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-01 18:12:43 

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