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Re: Is it just a guess ? (The full hand)

by Dave Flower <DavJFlower@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 29, 2008 at 12:36 AM

On Apr 29, 6:47=C2=A0am, Charles Brenner <cbren...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 8:31 am, Adam Beneschan <a...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 26, 11:19 am, Dave Flower <DavJFlo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > > E =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD S
=EF=
=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD W =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD N
> > > > p =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD1D
=EF=
=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD1H =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 2D
> > > > 2S =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD3D =EF=BF=BD
=EF=
=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD p =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD
=EF=BF=
=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD p
> > > > 3H =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDpass =C2=A0
=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 pass =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 4D
>
> > > =C2=A0=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD all pass
> > > Apologies for the duplicate H5, H3 and the wrong player bidding 4D.
>
> > It looks to me that the wrong player bid 3D too. =C2=A0Or maybe I
don't
> > understand the point of doing so, with only four trumps and a strong
> > balanced hand.
>
> > (P.S. My previous answer was based on the incorrect auction in which
> > South bid diamonds three times. =C2=A0Even so, South sounds like
someone=

> > with five diamonds, and my comment that West seems to be bidding too
> > tamely at this vulnerability to have much distribution still applies
> > somewhat to a 1=3D5=3D2=3D5 hand, although less so.)
>
> > > The full hand was:
> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 K Q J
> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 6 4
> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 K J 7 4
> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 10 6 4 2
> > > 6 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0A 9 7 5 3 2
> > > K J 10 8 2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=
=A0 9 7 5 3
> > > Q 10 5 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A08 6
> > > J 9 7 5 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0A
> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 10 8 4
> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0A Q
> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0A 9 3
2
> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0K Q 8
3
>
> > > (I can't really remember the low cards)
> > > Incidentally, I don't think that E/W can quite make 4H
>
> > Why not? =C2=A0It looks to me that the toughest defense would be three
> > rounds of diamonds, using up one of dummy's entries, but declarer
> > should still have the entries to set up dummy's spades.
>
> But not to get to them.
>
> Declarer needs four entries to dummy to ruff spades twice, to lead a
> trump, and to cash the spades. There are potentially exactly enough
> entries: two ruffs and two aces. But the spade ace is only an entry if
> you lead to it so unless the defense cooperates one of the entries
> will be wasted. For example: 3 diamond leads then a trump from dummy.
> Defense wins and plays a club. That's your second entry to dummy but
> you can't use it productively. You must now either lead a trump from
> dummy (a wasteful use of the club ace entry), or cash the spade ace
> (which wastes the entry value of that card).
>
> I give you credit for checking. I tend to assume automatically that
> Dave's analyses are right, but obviously that's my mental laziness.
>
> Charles- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thank's for the complement. What I actually said was:

I don't think that E/W can quite make 4H

so I think that did express a modi*** of doubt!

Dave Flower
 




 20 Posts in Topic:
Is it just a guess ?
Dave Flower <DavJFlowe  2008-04-25 04:47:40 
Re: Is it just a guess ?
Henry Lockwood <henry.  2008-04-25 06:57:59 
Re: Is it just a guess ?
Frances <FrancesHinden  2008-04-25 09:59:56 
Re: Is it just a guess ?
Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-04-25 10:23:33 
Re: Is it just a guess ?
henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-25 10:32:08 
Re: Is it just a guess ?
Nick France <gandalfnf  2008-04-25 10:52:39 
Re: Is it just a guess ?
Rob Morris <rm445@[EMA  2008-04-25 22:52:10 
Re: Is it just a guess ?
Charles Brenner <cbren  2008-04-25 11:14:28 
Re: Is it just a guess ?
markhj111@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-04-25 13:36:47 
Re: Is it just a guess ?
Adam Beneschan <adam@[  2008-04-25 15:54:21 
Re: Is it just a guess ?
Alan Malloy <alan.NO.S  2008-04-25 17:20:03 
Re: Is it just a guess ?
Steve Willner <swillne  2008-05-03 14:30:48 
Re: Is it just a guess ?
Adam Beneschan <adam@[  2008-04-25 15:56:29 
Re: Is it just a guess ? (The full hand)
Dave Flower <DavJFlowe  2008-04-26 11:19:22 
Re: Is it just a guess ? (The full hand)
henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-26 13:09:57 
Re: Is it just a guess ?
Adam Beneschan <adam@[  2008-04-28 08:17:32 
Re: Is it just a guess ? (The full hand)
Adam Beneschan <adam@[  2008-04-28 08:31:07 
Re: Is it just a guess ? (The full hand)
Charles Brenner <cbren  2008-04-28 22:47:26 
Re: Is it just a guess ? (The full hand)
Dave Flower <DavJFlowe  2008-04-29 00:36:16 
Re: Is it just a guess ? (The full hand)
Adam Beneschan <adam@[  2008-04-29 12:22:43 

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