Re: S:JT H:KT63 D:A72 C:9764, ok, what happens next...?

On Apr 28, 12:50 pm, Andrew <agump...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 10:33 am, Histriadogsilver <andjelka.rich...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > West   North   East   South
> >  ------      1H       p        2H ( constructive raise otherwise 1N F1
> > with subsequent 2H rebid)
> >    p        2S!!      p         ?
>
> > The bid of 2S!! is showing a shortness somewhere. What do you do now?
>
> > A.) You ask with 2N since you are interested in knowing in which suit
> > the shortness is
> > B.) You deny the invitation with 3H since your hand has minimum values
> > for the shown raise
> > C.) You just blast to game
>
> > I'll show you partner's hand later.
>
> > Boris
>
> I am glad I bid 2H instead of making partner guess by using a Bergen
> 3C. Now I ask for the shortness. If opener has a minor suit singleton,
> I have an obvious game bid. If opener has shortness in spades, I will
> sign off in 3H.
>
> The key to the hand is the short suit total (total of length in the
> partner****p's two shortest suits). If partner has a minor suit
> singleton, then the short suit total is 3. With a short suit total of
> 3, I will require only 20 working HCP to make game (of which I can
> provide 7 or 8 working HCP).
>
> If instead partner has a stiff spade, then the short suit total is
> probably 4 (since my doubleton spade is wasted and the partner****p's
> next shortest suit is probably 3). With a short suit total of 4, the
> partner****p will require an extra working king to make game. Since I
> have only 7 working HCP, opener will need approximately 16 HCP outside
> of spades and 16 HCP plus a stiff is a game bid, not an invite.
>
> Andrew

Intriguing notion, "short suit total", and new to me. Can you expand
-- e.g. the bidding rules, the origin of this idea, and the
justification for the stated thresholds? Google got me nothing so I'm
stuck.

Charles