On Apr 26, 9:25 pm, "raija d" <musti...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Charles Brenner" <cbren...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Apr 25, 1:23 am, Jan Veerbeek <jbveerb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> IMP's
> >> East/ all white
>
> >> Your hand:
> >> S A K 10 9 8 5 2
> >> H K J 6 5
> >> D 2
> >> C Q
>
> >> The bidding:
> >> West North East South
> >> -- --- 1C* pass
> >> 1H** ?
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> >> 1C =3D 2+ card C, no 5-card major, 11-19 HCP
> >> 1H =3D Transfer Walsh, 4+card S and 6+ HCP
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> >> Well, what will be Your action and why?
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> >> Jan Veerbeek
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> > 3S for me. I think 1S is outlandish -- why will partner think it shows
> > spades?
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> > Charles
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> Because that is what is shows?
Ok, it does for some. Depending on who my partner is I might have
assumed wrongly.
>It does for me and my partners. It does in
> SAYC according to the booklet.
You mean this?
"COMPETITIVE BIDDING
"There is almost an endless variety of possible sequences, so it pays
to have simple
guidelines to prevent bidding misunderstandings.
"Bids mean the same things they meant without the intervening bid."
Taken literally that says that after 1C by opener, 2S by responder is
the same whether or not there is a 1S intervention. So obviously the
rule is not to be taken 100% literally. Should it apply to the present
sequence?
In fact
[brief elaboration and examples in natural sequences follow, then ...]
"... Cuebidding right-hand opponent=92s suit shows values for game
without clear
direction for the moment."
which suggests the non-natural interpretation.
It's a judgment call which sentence applies to the present sequence.
Obviously the SAYC authors didn't have this particular situation in
mind, so it becomes a question of how partner will interpret the
passage assuming we've agreed SAYC. I lean toward the cue bid
interpretation. At a minimum, it's not reasonable to quote that
passage as an authority for the natural interpretation -- it's
ambiguous at best.
Or is there another relevant section in the booklet?
Charles
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