Re: Bid or mis-bid this hand with me

On Apr 25, 2:24 pm, henrysun...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> On Apr 25, 5:05 am, henrysun...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
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>
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> > You hold, at any vulnerability you choose, and playing in a 12-board
> > team match:
>
> > xx
> > x
> > Qx
> > J97xxxxx
>
> > You pass in first seat and hear this auction:
>
> > You     LHO     Partner     RHO
> > Pass   1s         2h            2s
> > ?
>
> > Any objection to a 3c bid here?
>
> > Henrysun909
>
> Thanks to all who responded.
>
> I didn't think there would be much sentiment for 3c here.  Now, how
> about this situation (same basic conditions except that you are not
> the dealer):
>
> RHO     You     LHO     Partner
> 1d         p         1s        2h
> 2s         ?
>
> Same objections to 3c?  Or is this an example of a hand where you
> might pass 1d with long clubs and back in later?
>
> Henrysun909

Thanks again to all who responded, and now the full story.

I held this hand (I may not have had the QS, I don't remember, but the
shape is right):

Q
xxx
xxxxx
AKxx

for my 3c bid.  Somewhat unexpectedly, my LHO doubled me with

Axxx
x
x
JTxxxxx

with perhaps a red K or Q also.

Of course, I did not let the hand play in 3cx, so I ran to 3h and the
auction took its course.

After the hand, I asked my partner whether he knew I had heart
sup****t.

He said that the 3c bid could have been natural without heart sup****t
(he did hold the singleton queen for his pass).

I said that there is no hand I could have that was not able to bid 3c
before that could bid 3c now unless it had heart sup****t as well.

He said, what about Jack ninth in a crappy hand?

I repeated that if I considered 3c unsafe / unwise / un-whatever over
1d, then how could it now be safer / wiser / whatever-er when the
opponents have announced strength and a fit and my LHO was unlimited.

He thought that I had entirely lost my mind ('you're missing the
point, totally'), so this was for me a reality check.  I was pretty
sure I was right and am now pretty confident in that *****sment.

Whether bidding 3c as a lead director on AKxx is wise or not is
certainly up for debate.

But whether, having bid 3c, I must have heart sup****t on this auction
seemed (and seems) clearly right.

Henrysun909