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Re: Pass-out decision

by Histriadogsilver <andjelka.richter@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 23, 2008 at 01:49 AM

On Apr 22, 9:11 am, Andrew <agump...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Apr 21, 10:48 pm, henrysun...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 21, 12:08 pm, Kevin Podsiadlik <KPodsiad...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 21, 12:50 pm, "raija d" <musti...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > > "raija d" <musti...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:xDSOj.2254$gU3.204@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > > > > Local sectional IMPs, solid average+ opponents and partner.
>
> > > > > RHO opens first seat. We are vul, they are not.
>
> > > > > RHO   You   LHO   Pd
> > > > > 2H       P       3H       P
> > > > > P         ?
>
> > > > > Your hand:
> > > > > Q109xx-xxx-J-AQ10x
>
> > > > > What is your call?
> > > > > Second choice(s) if any?
> > > > > And reasoning?
>
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > Raija
>
> > > > Thanks for all the responses.
> > > > I bid 3S, which I was not sure at the time would be the right
thing to do.
> > > > It wasn't. Majority here thought Pass is better.
> > > > Dummy hit with Ax-Ax-Axxx-KJxxx
>
> > > > How do you play the hand with a heart lead [was very low spot, I
don't
> > > > remember exact spots]
> > > > Any other comments?
>
> > > > Ax
> > > > Ax
> > > > Axxx
> > > > KJxxx
>
> > > > Q109xx
> > > > xxx
> > > > x
> > > > AQ109
>
> > > > FWIW, I went down one.
>
> > > That's an awfully good hand for partner to be passing, four-level or
> > > not.  The question of why you're not in 5C is partner's to answer,
not
> > > yours.
>
> > > As to the play, even though I'm guessing hearts are 3-5 from your
> > > emphasis on the low spot lead, so a heart ruff can most likely be
> > > arranged, doing so exposes you to a diamond ****ft that could prove
> > > very awkward.  I think I'm going to win the heart ace and bang down
> > > ace and another trump, hoping for something good to happen in trumps
> > > before the forces start.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Are you somehow suggesting that North has a bid with
>
> > Ax
> > Ax
> > Axxx
> > KJxxx
>
> > over 2h p 3h ?
>
> > What bid might that be?
>
> > Or are you suggesting that after 2h p 3h p; p 3s p ?
>
> > advancer should explore for a club fit?  Could not overcaller have a
> > long spade suit in a hand too weak to overcall 2s, such as
>
> > KQxxxx
> > xx
> > Kxx
> > xx
>
> Well, since that hand requires only a 3-2 spade break and a club guess
> to make 4S, and its not actually worth a balancing call at the 3-
> level, I can't see anything terribly wrong with getting to 4S if I buy
> those tickets.
>
> > No, I can't agree with either the view that north's hand has a
> > descriptive call to make over 3h, or that north should explore for a
> > club fit over 3s.
>
> > To me, this hand falls into the category of "preempts work."
>
> If I hold 16 prime HCP and partner can dig up a balance vul-against-
> not at the 3-level, then we will play in a game.
>
> Passing 3S on the advancer's hand is giving up. If you ever see me
> pass this hand, please just put me out of my misery.
>
> There are several reasonable bids for advancer to consider:
> *  3NT--Change the SQ to the SK and there are 9 tricks off the top.
> *  4S--Would be a fine contract opposite: KT9xxx, xx, xx, AQx
> *  4C--if this is forcing, its an excellent choice since either 5C or
> 4S could be cold. The only question is whether 4C should be forcing.
> If it is forcing, then advancer has no call in this auction holding:
> x, xx, Axx, KJTxxxx.
>
> Andrew

Why should partner want to bid anything with x-xx-Axx-KJTxxxx over
partner's 3S balancing bid, however it is very unlikely they are
holding 24 hcps, obviously missing the heart game.

Boris
 




 33 Posts in Topic:
Pass-out decision
"raija d" <m  2008-04-20 19:06:30 
Re: Pass-out decision
Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-04-20 19:19:18 
Re: Pass-out decision
henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-20 19:40:04 
Re: Pass-out decision
"Kieran Dyke" &  2008-04-21 13:03:03 
Re: Pass-out decision
Alan Malloy <alan.NO.S  2008-04-20 20:25:02 
Re: Pass-out decision
ted <morristed@[EMAIL   2008-04-20 20:41:17 
Re: Pass-out decision
Dave Flower <DavJFlowe  2008-04-21 01:27:38 
Re: Pass-out decision
dake50@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-21 05:09:49 
Re: Pass-out decision
henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-21 05:14:04 
Re: Pass-out decision
Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-04-21 07:45:29 
Re: Pass-out decision
"raija d" <m  2008-04-21 08:07:57 
Re: Pass-out decision
rhm <rhm@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-21 09:02:09 
Re: Pass-out decision
Eric Leong <ewleongusa  2008-04-21 09:31:36 
Re: Pass-out decision
"raija d" <m  2008-04-21 10:50:21 
Re: Pass-out decision
Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-04-21 11:18:59 
Re: Pass-out decision
Kevin Podsiadlik <KPod  2008-04-21 12:08:37 
Re: Pass-out decision
Stu Goodgold <stugo@[E  2008-04-21 12:25:30 
Re: Pass-out decision
"raija d" <m  2008-04-21 12:52:22 
Re: Pass-out decision
henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-21 22:48:40 
Re: Pass-out decision
"raija d" <m  2008-04-21 23:32:52 
Re: Pass-out decision
Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-04-21 23:51:59 
Re: Pass-out decision
Andrew <agumperz@[EMAI  2008-04-22 00:11:35 
Re: Pass-out decision
Will in New Haven <bil  2008-04-22 07:27:36 
Re: Pass-out decision
Kevin Podsiadlik <KPod  2008-04-22 13:32:05 
Re: Pass-out decision
"raija d" <m  2008-04-22 15:02:38 
Re: Pass-out decision
richlp <richlptx@[EMAI  2008-04-22 17:59:42 
Re: Pass-out decision
Histriadogsilver <andj  2008-04-23 01:49:03 
Re: Pass-out decision
Kevin Podsiadlik <KPod  2008-04-23 08:38:11 
Re: Pass-out decision
Will in New Haven <bil  2008-04-21 11:07:09 
Re: Pass-out decision
"raija d" <m  2008-04-21 11:40:58 
Re: Pass-out decision
hoffman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-21 11:55:37 
Re: Pass-out decision
CBFalconer <cbfalconer  2008-04-21 23:24:08 
Re: Pass-out decision
Bob Lipton <boblipton@  2008-04-23 10:37:53 

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