On Apr 22, 5:59 am, "Kieran Dyke" <tig...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "Dave Flower" <DavJFlo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> > Last night my partyner and I were totally fixed on a board, and it is
> > not clear what redress, if any, we had.
>
> > Essentially, a four club bid by the opponents sounded natural (it was
> > not a jump, no suit had been agreed and no trump had never been bid.
> > Neither of us realised that it was Gerber, and we consequently
> > misdefended.
>
> > In fact, the opponents did not produce a convention card (although
> > they apparently had one squirreled away), but even if one had been
> > produced,l doubt if it would have made any difference.
>
> > The bid was not alerted as the EBU requires no alerting above 3NT.
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> > Any comments out there ?
>
> > Dave Flower
>
> No idea what the relevant rules are in EBUland, but in Australia, while
all
> bids over 3NT (as well as doubles, redoubles, and bids of a suit bid or
> shown by an opponent) are deemed to be self-alerting, there is an
obligation
> after the auction (as the declaring side) to draw attention to whatever
> wasn't alerted on that account.
>
> Tiggrr
>(as well as doubles, redoubles, and bids of a suit bid or
> shown by an opponent) are deemed to be self-alerting,
Doubles and redoubles should never be an alert regardless of
meaning. There is no natural and standard meanings for those
bids.
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