On Apr 22, 6:32=A0pm, henrysun...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> On Apr 22, 12:27 am, StevieTee <ste...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > Hi Everyone!
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> > OK, you are playing IMP pairs, against opponents of unknown caliber
> > (of course, they self-describe as "experts," for whatever that is
> > worth), you pick up with all vulnerable:
>
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 KQ932
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 Q109654
>
> > The bidding goes:
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> > =A0 =A0 Partner =A0 =A0 RHO =A0 =A0 You =A0 =A0 LHO
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A02C* =A0 =A0 =A0 (pass) =A0 =A02D** =A0 (4H)
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 DBL*** =A0 (pass) =A0 =A0??
>
> > =A0 =A0 =A0* SAYC, strong
> > =A0 =A0 ** 0 or 1 control
> > =A0 =A0*** no agreement
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> > Do you pass or pull? =A0If you pull, what do you bid?
>
> > Thanks in advance - Steve Sun
>
> So here are the two hands in question:
>
> 9
> 10
> KQ932
> Q109654
>
> AKxxx
> AK
> AJx
> AKx
Two things:
1. I read this before posting my last answer.
2. Give people a little more time, eh, Henry? Knowing the hands
creates biases.
>
> My understanding of the pass, after a 2c opening bid and interference,
> is that it showed a hand that would have rebid 2nt after a negative
> response, and thus with the actual hand I had, I was too strong for
> that call.
Feh. Competition is based on shape. You pass with shortagish (as
here), and you double with a third or more heart.
>
> It wasn't clear to me to bid 4s or 4nt, so I felt as though double was
> my only option.
>
Nope. Pass. Sit a double.
> Not having encountered this situation before, I solicit input as to
> how this situation is best resolved. =A0If double is not available, is
> this hand supposed to pass 4h?
Yes.
=A0And if so, what is partner supposed to
> do with
>
> xxx
> x
> xxxx
> xxxxx
Cry. But surely not double - double ends the auction where partner is
short in hearts. (I'd bid 4N for the minors.)
>
> double? =A0if he is
>
> xx
> x
> xxxxx
> xxxxx
>
> how does he show both minors? =A0if he has
4N. Again.
>
> xxxx
> x
> xx
> xxxxxx
>
> is this also a balancing double of 4h?
No, because the double is penaltyish on both sides (and the 2C bidder
is going to honor it unless he has an ultra monster that makes six
opposite random nothing in the right strain.)
>
> Steven's contention is that if double shows a hand stronger than a 2nt
> rebid, then what does opener do with
>
> AQx
> KT9x
> AKx
> AKx
Double shows more hearts than pass. This hand doubles 4H. I bid 4N
with the above hand, and I'm still right. (yeah, we'll have to move
some cards for the hands to match, but you get the idea.)
>
> Where you have no real chance to make 4nt on your own but you might
> set 4hx 4 tricks if overcaller is 1=3D7=3D2=3D3 or 1=3D7=3D3=3D2.
>
Double doesn't always end the auction. You can't wait until you have
four solid hearts to double.
> Finally, for the curious, there was no psyche involved. =A0Overcaller
> had the QJTxxxxx hearts (and LHO had the QJTxxxx spades, so it was
> fortunate that we didn't end in 4s).
Indeed. But if you ended up in 4S, it would be your own fault.
My auction with your hands and your response structure to 2C:
>
> 9
> 10
> KQ932
> Q109654
>
> AKxxx
> AK
> AJx
> AKx
2C-P-2D-4H
P-P-4N-P
5N-P-7C-AP
Yes, 7N is better. I wouldn't find it. (5H would be OK instead of 5N.
After 2C-P-2D-4H/X-P-4N-P, I believe Henry and both think 5H will lead
to a non-making contract.)
--JRM
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