Re: Gerber ???

Barry Margolin wrote:

> In article <SaM$ptGxhfDIFwRm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>  David Stevenson <bridge2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
>> Sid wrote
>> >On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:18:51 -0700 (PDT), Dave Flower
>> ><DavJFlower@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >
>> >: The bid was not alerted as the EBU requires no alerting above 3NT.
>> >
>> >
>> >Shouldn't the bid be post-alerted and explained at the end of the
>> >auction?
>> 
>>    No.  That's a rule which certain authorities have introduced, eg the
>> ACBL.  It does not apply in England.
> 
> And even in the ACBL, I'm not sure this case would have required a
> post-alert.  For a while there was a rule that all ace-asking
> conventions required a post-alert (people would just say "there's been
> an ace-asking auction"), but now it's only required for unusual forms
> (e.g. kickback, minorwood).  Gerber is considered common enough that it
> doesn't require any alert.

Not in this situation ("it was not a jump, no suit had been agreed and no
trump had never been bid"). IIRC the ACBL alerting rules
(http://www.acbl.org/play/alertProcedures.html)
specifically call for a
delayed alert here ('[Blackwood and] 4C Gerber (any variety over
notrump) ... do not require an Alert of any kind. All other ace-asking
bids
and responses require an Alert, but some of these Alerts must
be "delayed." ')