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Re: self-explanations and self-alerts

by David Stevenson <bridge2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 21, 2008 at 11:56 PM

BBO expert wrote
>David Stevenson wrote:
>
>> BBO expert wrote
>>>raija d wrote:
>>>> "Bob" <rfrick@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>
>>>>> Hi. These are thoughtful replies, though not always on the issue of
>>>>> just whether or not you like the online system.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will start a new thread for people who want to argue any of this.
I
>>>>> can state my point baldly (not a misspelling!), then you don't have
to
>>>>> argue with someone who was just trying to ask a question.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was told that if you open 2D online, you cannot say "no
agreement".
>>>>
>>>> I would be curious to know who said that.
>>>
>>>In the case of a 2D opening, I'd tend to agree.  With a pickup partner
you
>>>might have all sorts of undiscussed bids but you should at least have
>>>agreed on a basic system (like S/A or ACOL) in which case you have
_some_
>>>agreement about 2D as an opening.
>>
>>    Should?  What has should to do with anything?
>
>Not having an agreement would be contrary to the rules of, at least, the
>ACBL.

  Yeah, whoopee.  However, the only two things wrong with that remark
are

[a] there is some bridge, just a teensy bit, played somewhere in the
world that is not subject to the rules of the ACBL.  Some Americans - a
minority, to be fair - will be surprised to find there could be bridge
outside North America - or even online.

[b] the discussion is what to do when you have no agreement.  Ok, even
if playing in the ACBL, if you have broken a rule, you still have to do
something.  Do you really expect to get penalised, by the way, for not
agreeing a system in the ACBL?

>>    When I sit down with a pickup partner I often find I am halfway
>> through the first auction with no system discussion at all.  So I have
>> not agree S/A or Acol [not ACOL, please], and certainly not agreed a 2D
>> opening in any way.
>
>Pickup partner or otherwise.  I've played in BBO Individual tournaments
>where you get approximately two seconds to agree on a convention card. 
We
>manage.  As a top-rated director, you should know better.

  Widdums.  I think your are far too heavy for non-serious play.

>  We have a
>monthly individual at one of our local clubs and system discussion tends
to
>be "do you play transfers?", but there's a default "Standard American" if
>nothing else is discussed.
>
>>    If partner now opens 2D I might guess right?  Surely, but so might
the
>> opponents: it is still 'no agreement'.
>
>Not if you've agreed on a basic system - and you should have done.

  And if I haven't?  Yeah, I know, auntie ACBL will smack me.

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self-explanations and self-alerts
Bob <rfrick@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-20 12:46:26 
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blackshoe <blackshoe@[  2008-04-20 13:43:33 
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Henry Lockwood <henry.  2008-04-20 15:01:44 
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Bob <rfrick@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-20 16:27:38 
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Peter Smulders <dev0@[  2008-04-21 02:14:46 
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"Kieran Dyke" &  2008-04-21 11:29:23 
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BBO expert <nym@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 12:07:16 
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"Steve Foster"   2008-04-21 15:50:07 
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ted <morristed@[EMAIL   2008-04-20 20:36:48 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-20 21:50:05 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-20 21:48:25 
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"raija d" <m  2008-04-20 22:18:58 
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"raija d" <m  2008-04-20 22:22:51 
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Brian <usenetposting@[  2008-04-21 12:00:47 
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ian.payn@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-21 02:18:34 
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BBO expert <nym@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 12:14:18 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-21 14:05:20 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-21 08:16:42 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-21 14:08:29 
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