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Re: self-explanations and self-alerts

by dranon <dranon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 21, 2008 at 08:16 AM

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:05:20 +0100, David Stevenson
<bridge2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>Bob wrote
>>Hi. These are thoughtful replies, though not always on the issue of
>>just whether or not you like the online system.
>>
>>I will start a new thread for people who want to argue any of this. I
>>can state my point baldly (not a misspelling!), then you don't have to
>>argue with someone who was just trying to ask a question.
>>
>>I was told that if you open 2D online, you cannot say "no agreement".
>
>   You were told wrong.
>
>   I have a new rule for you: Online, if you make a call and have no 
>agreement for it, explicit or implicit, you are not allowed to do 
>*otherwise* than indicate no agreement.

But my position is that if you have agreed to play SAYC, or even if
you think that you have agreed to play SAYC (by viewing CHO's profile
and it lists SAYC as the preferred system, and you note that your
profile does as well), then you have an agreement in effect and should
your opp ask about that bid they are entitled to know what you think
your agreement is.  That is to say, they are not required to:

1) look at your profile
2) note it says SAYC
3) Look at your partner's profile
4) Note it says SAYC
5) Magically understand everything that SAYC means

Now, you may argue they are required to do 1 through 4, but that still
doesn't mean they are required to do number 5.
 




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self-explanations and self-alerts
Bob <rfrick@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-20 12:46:26 
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blackshoe <blackshoe@[  2008-04-20 13:43:33 
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Henry Lockwood <henry.  2008-04-20 15:01:44 
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Bob <rfrick@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-20 16:27:38 
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Peter Smulders <dev0@[  2008-04-21 02:14:46 
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"Kieran Dyke" &  2008-04-21 11:29:23 
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"raija d" <m  2008-04-20 18:58:17 
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BBO expert <nym@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 12:07:16 
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"Steve Foster"   2008-04-21 15:50:07 
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Hank Youngerman <donts  2008-04-20 17:25:00 
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CBFalconer <cbfalconer  2008-04-20 21:38:09 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-21 02:42:57 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-21 02:48:22 
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ted <morristed@[EMAIL   2008-04-20 20:36:48 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-20 21:50:05 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-23 12:07:26 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-22 02:17:34 
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Will in New Haven <bil  2008-04-22 06:50:59 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-22 10:20:04 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-22 15:24:00 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-22 10:18:52 
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Bob <rfrick@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-20 20:43:42 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-20 21:48:25 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-21 15:14:40 
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"raija d" <m  2008-04-20 22:18:58 
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BBO expert <nym@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 12:11:23 
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ted <morristed@[EMAIL   2008-04-20 21:15:31 
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Bob <rfrick@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-20 22:13:53 
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"raija d" <m  2008-04-20 22:22:51 
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Brian <usenetposting@[  2008-04-21 12:00:47 
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BBO expert <nym@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 12:19:20 
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ian.payn@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-21 02:18:34 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-21 14:01:43 
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BBO expert <nym@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 12:14:18 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-21 14:05:20 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-21 08:16:42 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-21 14:08:29 
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Brian <usenetposting@[  2008-04-21 17:28:41 
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Brian <usenetposting@[  2008-04-22 00:02:50 
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gazelle@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-27 14:00:47 
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Martin Ambuhl <mambuhl  2008-04-27 15:22:15 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-21 18:57:51 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-21 18:59:19 
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Will in New Haven <bil  2008-04-21 11:09:56 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-21 19:03:30 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-21 15:22:21 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-21 15:39:07 
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CBFalconer <cbfalconer  2008-04-21 23:07:56 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-21 20:43:48 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-25 14:29:07 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-21 19:07:50 
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OldPalooka <ashutts1@[  2008-04-21 13:03:10 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-21 23:50:52 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-21 16:16:18 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-21 23:56:59 
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BBO expert <nym@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 21:17:51 
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OldPalooka <ashutts1@[  2008-04-21 16:07:38 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-21 16:15:39 
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OldPalooka <ashutts1@[  2008-04-24 07:27:58 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-22 00:02:50 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-21 16:17:23 
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Bob <rfrick@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-21 16:47:17 
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Barry Margolin <barmar  2008-04-21 21:29:31 
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Peter Smulders <dev0@[  2008-04-22 10:59:45 
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BBO expert <nym@[EMAIL  2008-04-22 10:29:57 
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OldPalooka <ashutts1@[  2008-04-21 18:29:12 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-21 19:45:22 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-22 10:14:05 
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"Steve Foster"   2008-04-23 13:30:55 
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Bob <rfrick@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-21 22:17:49 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-22 15:15:00 
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David Stevenson <bridg  2008-04-22 15:18:25 
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Barry Margolin <barmar  2008-04-22 23:37:27 
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CBFalconer <cbfalconer  2008-04-22 19:32:14 
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CBFalconer <cbfalconer  2008-04-23 09:50:10 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-24 05:16:17 
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Bob <rfrick@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-23 13:09:38 
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dranon <dranon@[EMAIL   2008-04-24 05:24:56 
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