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> eleaticus wrote:
> > "Susan" <sdbratt48@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> > > If you fill out a convention card, why is this a problem?
> >
> > Couple things.
> >
> > You can't fill out the ramifications, which in WELOS are many (and
obvious
> > once you 'get' the simple structure).
> >
> > But no matter what you see, or hear, during alerts, some people just
can't
> > get it that sequences that sound standard to them aren't:
> >
> > Me: 1C (Alert! Promises four clubs but could be as little as 8 TOTAL
> > points.)
> > pass.
> > Ted; 1H (Alert! Denies four card or better sup****t and is
non-forcing.)
> > pass.
> > ME: pass.
> > HUNH?!
> >
> > Ted could have two queens and a singleton diamond, and I could have a
king,
> > a queen, a jack, and a singleton spade (or diamond!)
> >
> > Third hand may have passed, with the idea of puni****ng us when we got
too
> > high.
> >
> > Second hand/balancer might not be able to connect the 8 total points
to
the
> > opener she thinks she heard me bid.
> >
> > However, the damn ACBL lawyers decided to protect the little ol'
ladies
of
> > Wichita, and elsewhere.
> >
> I see you finally posted a quick outline of your system in another
> thread and the first problem seems to be you din't explain your 1C bid
> very well here. It isn't that it could be as light as 8. Its it could
> be 8-11 or 16+. That is a major difference from what you said and
> totally misleading to the opponents when you didn't explain it right.
>
> Even the explaination of it could be 8-11 isn't right. You need to
> further explain that the point count includes HCP and distribution
> points.
>
> Seems you left out a lot for a simple system.
Absolutely right. But,again, I was exampling the inability of the
convention
card to handle things adequately, not trying to show a 'real life' example
of WELOS, although, yes, the response was based in WELOS.
--
eleaticus
ee-lee-AT-i-cus
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> Nick France
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