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Re: Whoopee!

by "eleaticus" <eleaticus@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sep 6, 2006 at 04:30 PM

"Otis Bricker" <obricker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "eleaticus" <eleaticus@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in news:ESqLg.3387$Ca4.2792
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> > "Otis Bricker" <obricker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > news:Xns9835D31EAFBF9obrickermydejanewsco@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> "eleaticus" <eleaticus@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
> >> news:nBoLg.3364$Ca4.390@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >> > "Susan" <sdbratt48@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >> > news:%AhLg.591$vb1.9@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> If you fill out a convention card, why is this a problem?
> >> >
> >> > Couple things.
> >> >
> >> > You can't fill out the ramifications, which in WELOS are many (and
> >> > obvious once you 'get' the simple structure).
> >> >
> >> > But no matter what you see, or hear, during alerts,  some people
just
> >> > can't get it that sequences that sound standard to them aren't:
> >> >
> >> > Me:   1C (Alert! Promises four clubs but could be as little as 8
TOTAL
> >> > points.)
> >> > pass.
> >> > Ted;  1H (Alert! Denies four card or better sup****t  and is
> >> > non-forcing.) pass.
> >> > ME:   pass.
> >> > HUNH?!
> >> >
> >> > Ted could have two queens and a singleton diamond, and I could have
a
> >> > king, a queen, a jack, and a singleton spade (or diamond!)
> >> >
> >> > Third hand may have passed, with the idea of puni****ng us when we
got
> >> > too high.
> >> >
> >> > Second hand/balancer might not be able to connect the 8 total
points
> >> > to the opener she thinks she heard me bid.
> >> >
> >> > However, the damn ACBL lawyers decided to protect the little ol'
> >> > ladies of Wichita, and elsewhere.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Sadly, this post seems to suggest that you think at least one foe the
> >> success you have is that they opponents are unfamiliar with your
style.
> >>
> >> That does not sound s****ting to me.
> >
> > Once again, when after three months of frequent play so-called experts
> > aren't getting what can be learned in 15 minutes ...
> >
>
>
> First, based on the length of the notes you posted and your comment on
> folks missing implications, I think you claim of 15 minutes is a bit
> optimistic.
>
> But moving past that, let us look at some numbers. Three months or
weekly
> games translates to 13 games with perfect attendence. Each game would
have
> the opponents face you for one round of 3 boards(maybe 2 if the game is
of
> reasonable size) assuming a perfect movement. So in three months, these
> pairs will have faced all of 39 hands playing against you. Not a large
> sample.
>
> And that is just the start. Half of these have them in first seat. As a
> ballpark estimate lets say that 30% of those are opened. And there are
some
> hands where you will not open. Assuming that, as you stated, you open
about
> 66% of the time,  I would guess that the average opponent will have had
<24
> hands where they could see your style in action over three months. And
they
> have a week between sessions each time to forget any minor new
implications
> that those few hands may have taught them.
>
> That does not include the hands where your style is only evident by its
> absence. Without complete knowledge of your style/system, will opponents
> realize that you would not have passed with a doubleton and 7 HCP? Will
> they realize that once you show up with doubleton and an AQ elsewhere,
> finessing your partner for everything is a sure bet? Ot that once you
have
> shown 5 HCP, a void is not possible? Does you pre-annoucement make this
> sort of thing clear or do they have to experience it once to see the
> implications?
>
>
> I really think you underestimate both the simple value of playing a
> radically different system and the ease with which an opponent will
become
> familiar with all the implications.

Thanks, Otis.

What's the chance that you will see a WELOS card and not think remember
the
things you have just said?

BTW,

One offer to play the system on BridgeBase 'poured in' this morning.

I have to make sure he understood how rusty I am.

I hope one more shows up so maybe two '****ny' nails can play it with me as
a
sub until I get polished again.


--
eleaticus
ee-lee-AT-i-cus
eleaticus@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 




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OT: Whoopee!
"eleaticus" <  2006-09-05 01:18:58 
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"Porsche_Dan" &  2006-09-05 02:23:37 
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"Gerben Dirksen"  2006-09-05 12:07:44 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-05 18:09:17 
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Otis Bricker <obricker  2006-09-05 06:55:06 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-05 18:16:58 
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Otis Bricker <obricker  2006-09-05 19:41:03 
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thissteve@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2006-09-05 06:13:58 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-05 18:18:32 
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"John Crinnion"  2006-09-05 08:27:31 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-05 18:23:48 
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henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2006-09-05 09:20:45 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-05 18:25:48 
Re: Whoopee!
"Susan" <sdb  2006-09-05 11:28:49 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-05 19:10:02 
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Otis Bricker <obricker  2006-09-05 19:45:14 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-05 21:39:16 
Re: Whoopee!
Otis Bricker <obricker  2006-09-06 12:23:37 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-06 16:30:18 
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Otis Bricker <obricker  2006-09-06 22:24:01 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-06 22:28:21 
Re: Whoopee!
"Bob" <bob@[  2006-09-05 09:56:07 
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"Will in New Haven&q  2006-09-05 12:25:42 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-05 18:35:49 
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"minus200(DELETETHIS  2006-09-05 23:05:25 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-05 23:10:17 
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"minus200(DELETETHIS  2006-09-06 15:15:13 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-06 16:24:50 
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"minus200(DELETETHIS  2006-09-05 15:37:17 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-05 18:49:21 
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"William Coleman&quo  2006-09-05 21:12:36 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-05 19:28:55 
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"Bob" <bob@[  2006-09-05 14:52:01 
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"William Coleman&quo  2006-09-05 22:21:22 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-05 18:55:18 
Re: Whoopee!
"Bob" <bob@[  2006-09-05 15:30:44 
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"Will in New Haven&q  2006-09-05 16:47:13 
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michael@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2006-09-06 09:06:53 
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"minus200(DELETETHIS  2006-09-06 15:31:31 
Re: Whoopee!
michael@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2006-09-07 08:45:49 
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"Bob" <bob@[  2006-09-05 16:50:24 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-05 18:52:02 
Re: OT: Whoopee!
Rob Morris <rm445@[EMA  2006-09-06 11:16:09 
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"Bob" <bob@[  2006-09-05 17:03:20 
Re: Whoopee!
"Will in New Haven&q  2006-09-05 18:29:16 
Re: Whoopee!
henrysun909@[EMAIL PROTEC  2006-09-05 19:00:38 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-05 21:37:11 
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"Nigel" <nig  2006-09-05 19:04:41 
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"Nigel" <nig  2006-09-05 19:21:50 
Re: Whoopee!
gandalfnf@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2006-09-05 19:39:05 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-05 21:44:25 
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"Bob" <bob@[  2006-09-05 19:54:30 
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"Nigel" <nig  2006-09-05 20:30:36 
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"raija d" <m  2006-09-06 00:00:06 
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gandalfnf@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2006-09-06 09:51:04 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-06 16:57:46 
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gandalfnf@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2006-09-06 10:16:40 
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"eleaticus" <  2006-09-06 17:00:00 
Re: OT: Whoopee!
"Adam Beneschan"  2006-09-06 14:33:54 
Re: OT: Whoopee!
Otis Bricker <obricker  2006-09-06 22:46:17 

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