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> eleaticus wrote:
> > "Susan" <sdbratt48@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> > > If you fill out a convention card, why is this a problem?
> >
> > Couple things.
> >
> > You can't fill out the ramifications, which in WELOS are many (and
obvious
> > once you 'get' the simple structure).
> >
> > But no matter what you see, or hear, during alerts, some people just
can't
> > get it that sequences that sound standard to them aren't:
> >
> > Me: 1C (Alert! Promises four clubs but could be as little as 8 TOTAL
> > points.)
> > pass.
> > Ted; 1H (Alert! Denies four card or better sup****t and is
non-forcing.)
> > pass.
> > ME: pass.
> > HUNH?!
> >
> > Ted could have two queens and a singleton diamond, and I could have a
king,
> > a queen, a jack, and a singleton spade (or diamond!)
> >
> > Third hand may have passed, with the idea of puni****ng us when we got
too
> > high.
> >
> > Second hand/balancer might not be able to connect the 8 total points
to
the
> > opener she thinks she heard me bid.
> >
> > However, the damn ACBL lawyers decided to protect the little ol'
ladies
of
> > Wichita, and elsewhere.
> >
> > --
> It seems you have still left a lot out of your system. Seems the 1H
> bid doesn't show hearts only tells about clubs.
"All-natural"?
>Second we have no idea
> of the range for a 1H response to 1C.
That's a point, up to a point.
opener: 8 minimum.
response: non-forcing.
What do you think?
Does "less than enough to force to game" sound reasonable?
> Third we seem not to know if
> responder was forced to bid over 1C.
Hmm. Well, technically, since I didn't say "alert! natural." I guess that
would apply if you assume I would violate a basic requirement of the alert
system and leave out what would be perhaps the most im****tant aspect of
the
opener.
Why would you do that?
> A lot of question and very little
> information from you although I see Henry has asked you twice to
> explain this simple sytem.
lol
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eleaticus
ee-lee-AT-i-cus
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> Nick France
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