On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:57:52 +0000, David Stevenson
<bridge2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>Brian Meadows wrote
>>On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:38:58 +0000, David Stevenson
>><bridge2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>>regis wrote
>>>>Last weekend I played with someone I never met before. We had a few
>>>>minutes to talk about out agreements before playing. Anyway, my
>>>>partner opened a strong 2C when I had the following 0-point hand:
>>>>
>>>>S: xx
>>>>H: xx
>>>>D: xx
>>>>C: T9xxxxx
>>>>
>>>>Our bidding (opponents passing): 2C - 2D - 2N - 3C - 3D - pass
>>>>
>>>>After partner opened 2C, I bid 2D, waiting, and partner bid 2N. I
>>>>assumed this denied a 4-card major, so I bid 3C, natural. My partner
>>>>bid 2D, thinking 3C was Stayman, and so I passed. Oops. My question:
>>>>how do you bid this hand the "Standard American" way, so that playing
>>>>with strangers is easy? I think the 2D waiting bid is dumb, but I'd
>>>>like to learn how to play Standard American strong 2C openers with
>>>>strangers (I can't find a definitive reference).
>>>
>>> 2C - 2D - 2NT will often have a four card major.
>>>
>>> With your actual hand I would choose between passing 2NT and bidding
>>>3NT. If partner has something in clubs like AKx you will likely make
>>>3NT: if he has something like KQ you will likely go off in 2NT! There
>>>is nothing much you can do with this hand scientifically.
>>>
>>> People do not play signoffs in clubs, so to play in clubs you will
>>>have to bid 5C.
>
>>Assuming transfers are on after 2C-2D-2NT, what prevents you from
>>stopping in 4C rather than 5C?
>>
>>Note that I'm not saying that this is a good move, I'm in favour
>>of bidding 3NT, but what other meaning would you assign to
>>2C-2D-2NT-3S other than the standard transfer to a minor,
>>assuming that transfers are on and absent specific agreement to
>>play it as something else? (I'm fairly sure SAYC states that
>>transfers ARE on after 2C-2D-2NT, although I haven't checked the
>>docs, such as they are).
>
> While that may be sensible, and part of SAYC, I am unconvinced that it
>is a method generally understood by average players.
I also missed the fact that the OP "had a few minutes to talk
about our agreements before playing". That rules out (most)
online bridge, unless it was a tournament or some other
pre-arranged game. Until I spotted the "time to talk", I'd
assumed from OP's concern about playing with strangers that he
was talking about online pickup games, therefore SAYC was likely
to be the system in use, even if by default. I claim no knowledge
of SA other than SAYC.
Brian.
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