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Re: Cheating

by David Stevenson <bridge2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 5, 2004 at 03:37 PM

Bill Jacobs wrote
>Whilst the two processes look similar, it is interesting that the volumes
>are so different: 150 over 3 years banned from OKB, and <10 from BBO.
>
>I can think of 3 possible reasons:
>
>1.  OKB has a much large number of players.
>
>2.  BBO is more conservative than OKB in "convicting" people of cheating
>
>3.  The presence of Lehman ratings in OKB provides a motivation for
cheating
>
>Item 3 is the one that interests me.  I am coming to the conclusion that
on-
>line bridge is only playable in an environment where it is played purely
for
>fun - that is, there is absolutely no reward or prize of any kind
involved.

   There are other possible reasons.  For example, the way things 
develop, the ambience, and so on may be different.  Or perhaps cheats 
are re****ted more on OKB.  Perhaps the fact that OKB have responded to 
pressure form their customers by appointing people specifically into 
ant-cheating roles has led to more cheating being found.  Or various 
other things.

   Compare systems that you are allowed to play in F2FB.  These are very 
restricted in England/Wales/North America, very unrestricted in 
Australia/Netherlands.  Why?  When this question has been asked in the 
NGs only absurd answers have been given, and consequently there is 
always a moan that it should be changed so all countries are the same 
[though whether the moaners think North America would be prepared to 
follow Australia or vice versa is not clear!!!!].  In fact I believe it 
is based on history, luck, the different development of the game, and so 
on.

   In the same way BBO and OKB have developed differently for a different 
length of time and costing different amounts of money with different 
games available.  While Lehmans may affect cheating, so do all these 
other things.

   One of the modern things I dislike - this is not a bridge-oriented 
remark, but a life-oriented remark - is that people think things have 
single causes.  In England road crashes are increasingly blamed on speed 
rather than all the other reasons [eg a badly maintained car is more 
likely to break at high speed].  In fact most things have multiple 
causes.  In my view the difference in number of convicted cheating cases 
between OKB and BBO is the result of many reasons.

-- 
David Stevenson            Wirral, Merseyside, UK       
<bridge2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 25 Posts in Topic:
Cheating
"Mmbridge" <  2004-01-04 08:55:51 
Re: Cheating
"Anton van Uitert&qu  2004-01-05 00:37:24 
Re: Cheating
"lotus" <toh  2004-01-06 14:35:36 
Re: Cheating
bill.jacobs@[EMAIL PROTEC  2004-01-05 02:57:07 
Re: Cheating
"Fred Gitelman"  2004-01-04 21:32:31 
Re: Cheating
bill.jacobs@[EMAIL PROTEC  2004-01-05 06:02:53 
Re: Cheating
"Fred Gitelman"  2004-01-05 05:36:06 
Re: Cheating
Otis Bricker <obricker  2004-01-05 09:48:50 
Re: Cheating
adam@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2004-01-05 10:59:26 
Re: Cheating
Otis Bricker <obricker  2004-01-05 18:13:06 
Re: Cheating
"Larry Gifford"  2004-01-06 14:39:55 
Re: Cheating
jl8e@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2004-01-06 20:39:18 
Re: Cheating
etsand@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2004-01-05 17:00:28 
Re: Cheating
doublesqueeze@[EMAIL PROT  2004-01-05 08:19:44 
Re: Cheating
Lex Spoon <lex@[EMAIL   2004-01-06 19:41:29 
Re: Cheating
nobody@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2004-01-07 08:46:48 
Re: Cheating
David Stevenson <bridg  2004-01-05 15:37:53 
Re: Cheating
news@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2004-01-05 16:45:16 
Re: Cheating
adam@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2004-01-05 17:37:21 
Re: Cheating
nobody@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2004-01-06 09:56:45 
Re: Cheating
David Stevenson <bridg  2004-01-06 01:53:02 
Re: Cheating
David Stevenson <bridg  2004-01-06 02:13:03 
Re: Cheating
"Otto Adamec" &  2004-02-01 14:45:53 
Re: Cheating
"Otto Adamec" &  2004-02-01 14:54:34 
Re: Cheating
David Stevenson <bridg  2004-02-02 00:33:27 

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