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Re: What would you call this ?

by william henderson <wchen@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 5, 2004 at 02:28 AM

For me, this is a most interesting discussion.  I appreciate your advice.

I have been thinking !  Marty Bergen defines negative doubles this way;

"A negative double is used by responder after his partner's opening bid
has been
overcalled.  It shows at least a minimum response, but denies the length
or
strength needed  in order for responder to bid a suit of his own."

So my partner's bid WAS a negative double.  His double was an SAYC bid. 
It
required no alert and no explanation.  And as declarer of a partner who
was a
passed hand, I had every right to treat it in any way I liked including
passing
to simply take my chances. I did NOT "convert" it.   Were the opponents
justified in seeking an explanation for such an ordinary bid ? Was the TD
justified in penalizing my  very ordinary, "pass". ?

Interesting  or just plain wrong ?

(There is no doubt that Michaels is part of sayc... but that was the
opponent's
bid.  My bid was a cue bid of a cue bid (Unusual over Michaels)  I
understand
you to say that as a cue bid it is non-alertable,  but if asked by opps I
would
be obliged to say "limit raise or better".. Is this right ?)

wchen


Barry Margolin wrote:

> In article <3FF88B3B.54CC1F11@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>  william henderson <wchen@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > What about cue-bids ?  Is it true that cue bids are not alertable ? 
This
> > afternoon,
> > my partner opened 1 club and my RHO bid 2 clubs (michaels).  I
immediately
> > bid 2
> > hearts even thouigh we had no arrangement of unusual/michaels, but
surely
> > obviously
> > a cue-bid.  Must I alert this cue bid ?  Must I tell them my meaning
even
> > when we
> > have no arrangement ?
>
> Maybe you should take a few minutes and read the SAYC booklet (it's in
> the OKBridge help) so you'll know what your agreements are.  Michaels
> cue-bids and Unusual 2NT are part of SAYC, so you *did* have an
> agreement about this.
>
> The rule in OKB tourneys is that you don't have to alert anything that's
> in SAYC.  Also, since self-alerts aren't seen by your partner, the rule
> of thumb on OKB is that if you're not sure, it's always safe to alert.
>
> But regardless of whether you have to alert something, you *always* have
> to explain it if asked.
>
> P.S. Again, the word is "agreement", not "arrangement".
>
> --
> Barry Margolin, barmar@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Arlington, MA
 




 17 Posts in Topic:
What would you call this ?
william henderson <wch  2004-01-03 23:43:31 
Re: What would you call this ?
Barry Margolin <barmar  2004-01-04 06:44:26 
Re: What would you call this ?
william henderson <wch  2004-01-04 13:18:03 
Re: What would you call this ?
Barry Margolin <barmar  2004-01-04 21:33:01 
Re: What would you call this ?
william henderson <wch  2004-01-04 16:52:59 
Re: What would you call this ?
Barry Margolin <barmar  2004-01-05 05:37:26 
Re: What would you call this ?
william henderson <wch  2004-01-05 02:28:04 
Re: What would you call this ?
william henderson <wch  2004-01-05 04:35:24 
Re: What would you call this ?
Barry Margolin <barmar  2004-01-05 21:07:58 
Re: What would you call this ?
David Stevenson <bridg  2004-01-04 19:41:34 
Re: What would you call this ?
william henderson <wch  2004-01-04 15:27:11 
Re: What would you call this ?
David Stevenson <bridg  2004-01-04 22:11:38 
Re: What would you call this ?
Barry Margolin <barmar  2004-01-04 23:51:41 
Re: What would you call this ?
David Stevenson <bridg  2004-01-04 22:51:39 
Re: What would you call this ?
william henderson <wch  2004-01-04 17:47:22 
Re: What would you call this ?
David Stevenson <bridg  2004-01-05 01:51:47 
Re: What would you call this ?
David Stevenson <bridg  2004-01-05 01:51:47 

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