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End game position: Move unclear

by omegaman <jeff_barrows@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 27, 2008 at 03:41 PM

I recently played a match online and ran it through an older version
of Snowie (3.0). There was an end game holding position that I'm not
clear on when I rolled double ones. See position & match score below
along with my notes on the position. Does anyone have an answer? If
you have more recent versions of either Snowie or Gnubg maybe you can
run the position through and see if the equities are different.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
|                 Captain_America (X) vs. clay (O)                 |
|                          7 point Match                           |
--------------------------------------------------------------------

 Match to 7. Score X-O: 3-4

           X to play (1 1)
           +24-23-22-21-20-19-------18-17-16-15-14-13-+
           | O  O  O  O  O  O |   |  X                           |
           | O  O      O       O |   |  X                           |
           |     O                    |
|                              | S
           |     O                    |
|                              | n
           |                           |
|                               | o
           |                           |
|                               | w
           |                           |
|                               | i
           |                           |
|                               | e
           |    X  X                 |   |
O |
           | X  X  X  X  X         |   |                            O
|
           | X  X  X  X  X         |   |  X                        O |
           +-1--2--3--4--5--6----------7---8---9--10--11--12-+
           Pipcount  X:  78  O:  77  X-O: 3-4 of 7 (1)
           CubeValue:  2, X owns Cube

           1. 2  18/17(2) 5/4 2/1          Eq.:  0.446
               0.0%   0.7%  47.4%    52.6%   0.6%   0.1%
           2. 2  18/17(2) 7/6 5/4          Eq.:  0.445 (-0.000)
               0.1%   0.9%  47.4%    52.6%   0.9%   0.2%
           3. 2  18/17(2) 7/6 3/2          Eq.:  0.430 (-0.016)
               0.1%   0.8%  46.9%    53.1%   0.7%   0.1%
           4. 3  18/16(2)                  Eq.:  0.409 (-0.037)
               0.1%   0.5%  46.4%    53.6%   0.6%   0.0%
               Simplified 3-ply, 20%.
           5. 2  18/17(2) 5/4 3/2          Eq.:  0.402 (-0.044)
               0.0%   0.7%  46.3%    53.7%   0.6%   0.1%
           6. 3  18/17(2) 7/6 2/1          Eq.:  0.355 (-0.090)
               0.1%   0.7%  45.2%    54.8%   0.7%   0.1%
               Simplified 3-ply, 20%.
           7. 3  18/17(2) 7/5              Eq.:  0.347 (-0.099)
               0.1%   0.7%  45.2%    54.8%   0.9%   0.1%
               Simplified 3-ply, 20%.
           8. 3  18/17(2) 3/1              Eq.:  0.338 (-0.107)
               0.1%   0.6%  45.0%    55.0%   0.8%   0.1%
               Simplified 3-ply, 20%.
           9. 3  18/17(2) 5/4(2)           Eq.:  0.336 (-0.110)
               0.1%   0.6%  44.9%    55.1%   0.7%   0.1%
               Simplified 3-ply, 20%.
          10. 1  18/17(2) 5/3              Eq.:  0.273 (-0.173)
               0.1%   0.8%  43.7%    56.3%   0.9%   0.1%
      Why move one of the 1's to 5/4 as the better move? Wouldn't
      it make more sense going 3/1 (position 8) with the two remaining
1's? I
      understand only going to the 17pt because of the pip count.
      My move of 18/17(2) 3/1 was the 8th move at -0.107 and is
considered a
      blunder?
 




 6 Posts in Topic:
End game position: Move unclear
omegaman <jeff_barrows  2008-04-27 15:41:57 
Re: End game position: Move unclear
omegaman <jeff_barrows  2008-04-27 15:53:30 
Re: End game position: Move unclear
Stick <checkmugged@[EM  2008-04-27 16:29:51 
Re: End game position: Move unclear
Raccoon <racgammon@[EM  2008-04-27 18:11:50 
Re: End game position: Move unclear
omegaman <jeff_barrows  2008-04-28 12:38:32 
Re: End game position: Move unclear
omegaman <jeff_barrows  2008-04-28 12:56:15 

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