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Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no chess on TV now?

by "Chess One" <OneChess@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 23, 2008 at 08:40 AM

"Andy Walker" <anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:fs4hl7$gat$1$8300dec7@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> In article <xPGdnZIVa5nIEXnanZ2dnUVZ_uOmnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> David Kane <davidekane@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>>>>Is there a *practical* "downside"?
>>> Well, it mucks up rating.  Either ratings can't follow the
>>> points, or else you have built in inflation.  That's a "practical"
>>> problem;  whether it matters is something else.
>>The fix is trivial.
>
> Not really.  You are going to get cases where player A
> scores more points than player B [who gets more draws] against
> the same standard of opposition, but B gets the higher rating
> as a consequence.  Many players are somewhat precious about
> their ratings, so that *is* going to cause problems.

This is an interesting exchange of view relating scoring and rating. 
Somewhat in sup****t of David Kane's exploratory propositions, I believe he

has said elsewhere in these threads that the current system is not 
necessarily superior to any changed system - and which /also/ is a factor
in 
players motivations.

Evidently, as Andy Walker points out, both scoring and ratings are factors

considered by the player in fighting the game out, and IMO, these might
not 
be distinguishable.

eg; last round scenario where stronger player agrees a draw against a
weaker 
player, both are motivated to accept the draw since the stronger player 
clinches first place, and the weaker player gets a ratings boost.

If indeed "Many players are somewhat precious about their ratings, so that

*is* going to cause problems", then aren't those the sorts of problems we 
need?

To wit; if you want to maintain your rating then don't give up the draw
and 
fight it out - and this may motivate players on an individual basis.

In terms of scoring, organisers might like a differentiated black/white 
score for draws, since more decisive games add drama to their events.

Phil Innes


> Andy Walker
> Nottingham
 




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Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"marksteere@[EMAIL P  2008-03-20 11:30:08 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-03-21 08:04:47 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-21 08:55:32 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-03-21 16:30:31 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-21 10:04:58 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
David Richerby <davidr  2008-03-21 19:21:42 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A  2008-03-21 20:28:13 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-21 14:22:27 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-03-21 21:37:21 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A  2008-03-22 01:13:49 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-21 21:33:38 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-03-22 10:48:05 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A  2008-03-23 03:09:27 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-22 21:56:30 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
David Richerby <davidr  2008-03-23 15:09:57 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-23 12:13:38 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A  2008-03-24 01:30:09 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-23 21:04:23 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A  2008-03-24 18:38:40 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-24 12:10:49 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"Chess One" <  2008-03-23 08:40:04 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
David Richerby <davidr  2008-03-22 23:36:04 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A  2008-03-23 01:44:38 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-03-21 21:28:20 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-21 14:49:37 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-03-22 10:18:30 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-22 08:35:52 

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