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Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no chess on TV now?

by Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 23, 2008 at 11:50 AM

David Richerby <davidr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> By the way, just to inject some actual data on the magnitude of the
> draw problem in chess...
> 
> http://www.chessgames.com
has a large database of games, mostly
> between strong players.  Their `opening explorer'[1] gives win/loss/
> draw statistics for the most commonly played openings.  Of these, the
> moves 1.e4, 1.d4, 1.Nf3 and 1.c4 account for 98.3% of the 460,000
> games in the database.  Restricting to those four opening moves, we
> see that:
> 
>    36.8% of games (167,000) are won by White
>    36.6% of games (166,000) are drawn
>    26.6% of games (120,000) are won by Black
> 
> We already have 63.4% of games ending in a win by one player or the
> other.  Is it really necessary to `solve' this `draw problem'?
> 
> Another issue is this: it is clearly seen that White has an advantage.
> White scores, on average, 0.551 points per game, compared to Black's
> 0.449 points per game.  Any system that reduces the score for draws
> will make Black's position slightly worse, since he gets more of his
> points from draws.  The option of giving a third of a point for draws
> would give White 0.490 points per game and give Black 0.388: White
> goes from scoring 55.1% of the available points to scoring 55.8% of
> the points.  This effect is smaller than I would have expected.

Just for comparison, BAP scoring assigns a value of 
(2*.368+1*.366+0*.266) = 1.102 for white
(0*.368+1*.366+3*.266) = 1.164 for black
or 48.6% to white

I don't know if it's ever been proposed, but
3/2/4 rather than BAP's 2/1/3 would assign values of
(3*.368+2*.366+0*.266) = 1.836 for white
(0*.368+2*.366+4*.266) = 1.796 for black
or 50.6% to white.

Similarly, having a draw worth 2/3 to black, 1/3 to white yields
(1*.368+1/3*.366+0*.266) = .490
(0*.368+2/3*.366+1*.266) = 0.510

Of course, I have no idea how representative of modern 
tournament results the above pro****tions are.

Phil
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Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
remysun2000@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-09 22:20:52 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"Robin King" &l  2008-03-10 21:30:04 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
David Richerby <davidr  2008-03-12 13:24:21 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-12 10:40:40 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
David Damerell <damere  2008-03-12 18:31:18 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-12 17:05:36 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
David Damerell <damere  2008-03-13 13:25:16 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-13 08:54:53 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
David Damerell <damere  2008-03-13 16:55:48 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-13 10:43:12 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
David Richerby <davidr  2008-03-14 00:18:51 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
David Damerell <damere  2008-03-14 13:11:33 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Kenneth Sloan <Kenneth  2008-03-14 12:16:16 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-18 10:05:42 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
David Richerby <davidr  2008-03-13 17:29:00 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-13 10:46:40 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Chris Mattern <syscjm@  2008-03-17 01:54:34 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
David Richerby <davidr  2008-03-23 02:05:43 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Phil Carmody <thefatph  2008-03-23 11:50:59 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"Chess One" <  2008-03-23 08:08:11 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
David Richerby <davidr  2008-03-23 15:33:46 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"Chess One" <  2008-03-23 12:20:33 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-23 08:19:54 

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