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Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no chess on TV now?

by "David Kane" <davidekane@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 21, 2008 at 02:49 PM

"Peter Clinch" <p.j.clinch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:64injaF2ce0ajU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> But since losing gets as much worse as winning gets better, and
combative play 
> is often riskier, you haven't really changed anything in the net
risk/reward 
> equation.  It still averages out.


This is incorrect. In anti-draw scoring, drawing and
losing becomes closer. So it pays to take risks that
give you winning chances, even if you might lose.
Earlier I gave an example: A player can chose
between two moves. In the first, he can simplify the
position to an ending and he estimates his
chances as: W=0, D=0.9, L=0.1 In the second move,
launching a counterattack, he estimates his chances
to be W=0.3, D=0.3, L=0.4.

With 1867-scoring (Wins = 1 point, draws = 1/2 point
and losses =0), the expectation of either move is
identical (0.45). Now imagine that we used "soccer"
scoring, for example (Wins = 3 point, draws = 1 point
and losses =0) Now the simplifying move is worth 0.9,
and the counterattacking move is worth 1.2

Without changing the underlying rules of chess, we've
altered the meta-game to provoke more interesting
play. Just because something seemed reasonable to
try 141 years ago, doesn't mean it makes sense for
today's game.





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 27 Posts in Topic:
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"marksteere@[EMAIL P  2008-03-20 11:30:08 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-03-21 08:04:47 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-21 08:55:32 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-03-21 16:30:31 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-21 10:04:58 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
David Richerby <davidr  2008-03-21 19:21:42 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A  2008-03-21 20:28:13 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-21 14:22:27 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-03-21 21:37:21 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A  2008-03-22 01:13:49 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-21 21:33:38 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-03-22 10:48:05 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A  2008-03-23 03:09:27 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-22 21:56:30 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
David Richerby <davidr  2008-03-23 15:09:57 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-23 12:13:38 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A  2008-03-24 01:30:09 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-23 21:04:23 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A  2008-03-24 18:38:40 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-24 12:10:49 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"Chess One" <  2008-03-23 08:40:04 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
David Richerby <davidr  2008-03-22 23:36:04 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A  2008-03-23 01:44:38 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-03-21 21:28:20 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-21 14:49:37 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-03-22 10:18:30 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-22 08:35:52 

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