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Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no chess

by Peter Clinch <p.j.clinch@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 21, 2008 at 08:04 AM

marksteere@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> On Mar 20, 6:48 am, Peter Clinch <p.j.cli...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> ... what's the problem with draws?
>>> Nobody wins - especially not the spectators.
>> Bit of a sweeping assumption...  Personally I'd prefer to watch or play
>> a well fought draw than an indifferent game with a result one way or
>> another.
> 
> Those aren't the only two possibilities.  Believe it or not, some
> games (not including Chess) can both be well fought and end decisively
> - every time!

And?  if it's decisive every time then that is clearly not fair in a
game fought by two players on equivalent form.  You still aren't
demonstrating that draws are bad or that most people don't like them.

If I'm playing a komi in Go I usually make it an integer where draws are
 specifically made possible.  All I'd have to do to take out all
possibility of a draw is add a half point to the komi, but I (and my
friends at the Go club) don't see the point.  We don't see any necessity
or advantage in requiring a decisive result.

> Who said I was only interested in the bottom line?  I'm interested in
> robust games (again, not including Chess).

Your value of "robust" isn't necessarily global though.

> Let's take it to the extreme and imagine that instead of 80% draws
> among experts, you have 100% draws among intermediate players.  Not
> too farfetched since games like that do exist.  Would you find that
> entertaining?

Let's take it to reality and note that that doesn't happen in Chess,
which is the subject of this discussion, so your "point" is rather
lacking any, errr, point.

Pete.
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Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"marksteere@[EMAIL P  2008-03-20 11:30:08 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-03-21 08:04:47 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-21 08:55:32 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-03-21 16:30:31 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-21 10:04:58 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
David Richerby <davidr  2008-03-21 19:21:42 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A  2008-03-21 20:28:13 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-21 14:22:27 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-03-21 21:37:21 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A  2008-03-22 01:13:49 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-21 21:33:38 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-03-22 10:48:05 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A  2008-03-23 03:09:27 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-22 21:56:30 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
David Richerby <davidr  2008-03-23 15:09:57 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-23 12:13:38 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A  2008-03-24 01:30:09 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-23 21:04:23 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A  2008-03-24 18:38:40 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-24 12:10:49 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"Chess One" <  2008-03-23 08:40:04 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
David Richerby <davidr  2008-03-22 23:36:04 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
anw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A  2008-03-23 01:44:38 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-03-21 21:28:20 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-21 14:49:37 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-03-22 10:18:30 
Re: Fischer's death again begs the question: Why is there no che
"David Kane" &l  2008-03-22 08:35:52 

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