"David Damerell" <damerell@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Quoting David Kane <davidekane@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>:
>>"David Damerell" <damerell@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>At what point in a football game is the position definitely drawn, such
>>>that neither team might score a final goal, but it remains possible to
>>>"toss a coin" and let one side win?
>>The teams agree that if the score is tied and there is one minute left
>>they toss a coin. Loser gives up a goal.
>
> Who's tossing this coin and communicating the decision to all the
players
> in considerably less than a minute, none of whom will blab or decline to
> participate in the fiddle?
I think it would be in principle no more difficult for a soccer team to
pull
this off without suspicion than it would be for chess players. Of course,
it would be difficult for both.
The point is that the current scoring system produces collusion
in chess that nobody disputes. It *is* part of chess' tradition to
have unplayed draws. While I might grant that people should be on the
look out for these far-fetched theoretical possibilities that Mr.
Richerby raises, they should not be considered as serious
objections absent *any* sup****ting evidence.
>
>>That strategy, though illegal and contrary to the tradition of the
s****t,
>>has a positive return with the scoring systems used in many soccer
>>leagues.
>
> West Germany v Austria, 1982 World Cup, is (an example of) another
problem
> with your argument that this sort of thing does not happen in football
and
> therefore would not happen in chess.
> --
In the chess world, the prearranged draw with the purpose of staying ahead
of
the rest
of the field is routine with the *present* scoring system. Sadly it does
not
elicit much outrage. There are also a few examples of players throwing
games
but those are far rarer, and are condemned. That is why an argument based
on losing ~1/4 of your games on purpose in return for winning another ~1/4
by
fraud
is so ridiculous.
> David Damerell <damerell@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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