Re: New Game: Torus

"markste...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <markste...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> > Alas, the same can be said about your "Torus".
>
> > It is a game I considered some while ago, but discarded
> > on the ground that the two players had noticeably different
> > goals, of unequal difficulty.
>
> You're wrong.

No, I'm right, and you're wrong.

And you're also far too quick off the mark with these posts.
You'd do a lot better to reflect for a while each time.

>  The two goals are exactly equivalent.

They are not.

>  When viewed in 3D form, they "appear" to be different.

That has nothing to do with it.  They are clearly different in 2D.

> > The E/W direction paths
> > have a different (global & local) topology from the N/S paths.

You have totally overlooked the force of this comment.
You are making it very difficult to be polite to you.

> In your game, as in mine, one player has a possible goal of forming an
> N-S loop and the other player a W-E loop.  So it's way beyond me how
> you arrived at the conclusion that your game has equal goals and mine
> doesn't.

Obviously!   That is a great pity.  I had previously formed the idea
that you were a logical and careful thinker and designer of games.
I see I was wrong!

Here is a simple explanation.  I hope it is simple enough for you.

..   .   o  .
  .   .   .   .       Here is a 4x4 version of your "Torus"
..   .   o  .
  .   .   .   .

Please note that the NS player can ensure a loop with just 2 stones!
The EW player has no such option.
........................

Are we learning anything yet???

>  I wouldn't release an unequal goals game.

You just did.

Please try and keep up!

-- Bill of Boardgames