On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:55:14 -0700 (PDT), HHW
<coaster132000@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>On Apr 16, 12:33 am, Eli Grubman <eli.grub...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:45:40 -0700 (PDT), jgarbuz
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>> <jgar...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >On Apr 15, 9:18 pm, Eli Grubman <eli.grub...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:55:23 -0700 (PDT),jgarbuz
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>> >> <jgar...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> >On Apr 15, 3:27 pm, Eli Grubman <eli.grub...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> >> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:07:37 GMT, flav...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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>> >> >> >On 15-Apr-2008, g...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Graz) wrote:
>> >> >> >I see that, in addition to his stupid lies, the Rev Pedo
>> >> >> >has forgotten which alias he's using.
>>
>> >> >> >Susan
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>> >> >> I see that, in addition to her other stupid lies, the convert is
still
>> >> >> insisting that she's a Jew.<
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>> >> >Oh, she is a Jew.
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>> >> No, she merely converted to the religion most closely associated
with
>> >> Jews. Ethnically, she's the same as she was born. <
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>Ethnicity is cultural, not racial
No, it is based on genetics/heredity and develops cultural attributes.
It is determined at birth, not acquired.
>> >She has cut herself off from her Celtic roots to become an Israelite.
>>
>> No, she hasn't. She still refers to herself as "Irish".
>>
>> >She changed tribes. These days people even can change genders. Can you
>> >still call a man who has been operated on and turned into a woman a
>> >man nonetheless?
>>
>> No, a gelding. Certainly not a "woman".
>>
>> >Her DNA is still Irish, but she has changed tribes
>> >and married a Jew, and her childen will be Jews under Jewish law -
>>
>> No, half-Jewish under the laws of heredity, which overrule "Jewish
>> law".
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>> >unless they choose to leave the tribe by converting back to the faith
>> >of different tribes.
>>
>> Their ethnicity will remain unchanged by any ****ft in religion.
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>If an Irish child is taken at birth to an Orthodox Jewish home and is
>raised there knowing no other family, will he/she not be ethnically
>Jewish?
Culturally Jewish, perhaps, but certainly not ethnically Jewish. It
will stand out like a sore thumb among ethnic Jews.
>I'm just picking at the words for the sake of clarity.
>Ethnicity is culture, learned behavior, not something genetic.
>Jewishness is ethnicity. The DNA is Semitic if you wish to talk about
>race.
Please see above.
> But the Semitic race includes many who are not ethnic Jews.
>Palestinians for example.
There is no Semitic race, as such. Jews, Arabs, (Southern) Italians,
Greeks etc all belong to the Mediterranean branch of the Caucasian
race.
Semites are a sub-grouping and include both Jews and Arabs - they are
closely related genetically, and it is often said that they deserve
each other.
Eli
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