On Apr 16, 7:55 pm, HHW <coaster132...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Apr 16, 12:33 am, Eli Grubman <eli.grub...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
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> > >She has cut herself off from her Celtic roots to become an Israelite.
>
> > No, she hasn't. She still refers to herself as "Irish".
>
> > >She changed tribes. These days people even can change genders. Can
you
> > >still call a man who has been operated on and turned into a woman a
> > >man nonetheless?
>
> > No, a gelding. Certainly not a "woman".
>
> > >Her DNA is still Irish, but she has changed tribes
> > >and married a Jew, and her childen will be Jews under Jewish law -
>
> > No, half-Jewish under the laws of heredity, which overrule "Jewish
> > law".
>
> > >unless they choose to leave the tribe by converting back to the faith
> > >of different tribes.
>
> > Their ethnicity will remain unchanged by any shift in religion.
>
> If an Irish child is taken at birth to an Orthodox Jewish home and is
> raised there knowing no other family, will he/she not be ethnically
> Jewish? I'm just picking at the words for the sake of clarity.
> Ethnicity is culture, learned behavior, not something genetic.
> Jewishness is ethnicity. <
People will drift towards where they belong. Or their children will.
>The DNA is Semitic if you wish to talk about
> race. But the Semitic race includes many who are not ethnic Jews.
> Palestinians for example.<
Some Palestinians are of Israelite blood, especially in the West
Bank.
> > >Look, under US law all members of an Indian tribe have the right to
> > >live on their own reservations. But today some 40% of American
Indians
> > >are of mixed blood. But they are part of the tribe nonetheless and so
> > >have tribal rights. It's the tribe itself who makes its own laws in
> > >that regard.
>
> > But are still subject to US law.
>
> Similarly, we have Jewish law but
>
>
>
> > are still subject to the laws of our host countries and universal laws
> > such as the laws of heredity.
>
> > >Anyhow, the Hebrews were ethnically mixed from very early on in their
> > >history. Like the Mormons, who after generations of living apart, and
> > >marrying within their own coreligionists have in effect created a new
> > >tribe. The tribe of Mormons. Same with the Amish. That was how the
> > >Hebews started out..
>
> > Irrelevant.
>
> > >> > I never would question that. ut she should stay in
> > >> >the cyberghetto and leave me to take care of the Jew-haters like
you.
>
> > >> Moi? A Jew-hater? And how exactly do you take care of
"Jew-haters"?,
>
> > >By showing them up for the ignoramuses that they are.
>
> > Self-hatred doesn't do that very effectively.<<
Self hatred is an essential ingredient in being Jewish. It's what
keeps us on our toes.
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