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> On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:01:24 +0100, Mal Franks <spampit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>
> >> Anyone have any good things to say about the Euro servers?
> >>
> >> If it is as bad as some people say and I'm still playing and enjoying
> >> the game after two or three months, I'll cut my losses and switch to
the
> >> US version. So, as the header, are the Euro servers really that bad?
> >
> >I'd say not at all - otherwise i'd still be playing on Lancelot :)
>
> Mal, you're seeing it from your point of reference. From an
> experienced players point of view. Keep in mind one thing, well
> several.
>
> Sean is not only new to DAoC, but *new to MMORPGs*. He is playing one
> account from scratch and will not have a bot. He cannot /level.
>
As mentioned before I don't level - every one of mine is started from
scratch. Guess I'm a masochist :-D
> >Populations aren't as high as US servers, but the english server
> >Excalibur still has a decent amount of people on it (unlike Prydwen)
and
> >when the RvR zones are clustered with the other English server Prydwen
> >it should be pretty interesting. :-)
>
> He is a total newbie to MMORPGs, how long until it would get 'pretty
> interesting' for him?
>
Well as I said excalibur has a decent population and there's usually
people wandering around the aqueducts to group with and although the
interesting bit will be later, but it will be there :)
> Also as I've said elsewhere, given that DAoC slowly leaks pop over the
> next two years which will last longer and remain viable, servers that
> cater for The USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand or the ones that
> cater for just the British. Sean is just starting out on his DAoC
> career. What's the best bet for longevity for someone starting DAoC as
> their first ever MMORPG from scratch?
>
English language servers aren't british servers, there are heck of a lot
of non-Brits playing on Excalibur.
> >Albion on Excalibur managed to have a battlegroup of 200 players and 50
> >others (200 max amount) - doing a run of Master Levels 1, 2, 3 and 6
> >from 11am on Sunday all wearing silly costumes - of course middies and
> >hibbies used that as an excuse to swipe all but one of the relics while
> >we were doing it :-P
>
> All this, master levels etc., means nothing to him at this juncture
> and it will be a long time until it does. Do you remember what it was
> like the *first* time you ever played a MMORPG? Pretty daunting? I
> know it was for me.
It wasn't meant as an example of what he'd be encountering when he
joined the game - but does show that there are quite a few people still
playing the game and enjoying it.
> >GOA takes a few months longer on updating to latest versions, but they
> >are getting quicker now. Besides it also means that quite a few bugs
> >have been fixed before they reach the GOA servers. Think of Mythic
> >players as Beta testers :-P
>
> ROTFLMFAO.
>
> Three versions behind now, or is it four? Well it will be four next
> week, lol. Never has Mythic had unmitigated disasters like the
> infamous Excalibur fiascos and the more recent Prydwen corruption. And
> how do you find The Chronicles compare to The Herald? How do you find
> GOA's customer sup****t compared to Mythics when you've had to use it.
>
It won't be 4 patches though - we're being upgraded to 1.78 tomorrow.
Prydwen was unfortunate, but Excalibur has been pretty stable for quite
a while now. Not experienced much downtime. Never made use of Herald or
Chronicles so can't say :)
I've had very quick responses to problems posted on the RightNow sup****t
system.
> >Classic servers available on the US aren't really classic. To most
> >people classic could mean either just the old mainland areas, original
> >cl***** and original frontiers or up to the Shrouded Isles expansion.
> >Classic in mythic's eyes includes everything except for Trials Of
> >Atlantis zones and master levels.
>
> Again, what's this to Sean? What he wants is a *really well populated
> newbie area with no bots and no /level so he can learn the game and be
> as competitive as everyone else*. Where he can group and *start having
> fun from the get go*.
>
True, however you don't recommend purely based on what it's like at the
start - otherwise I'd be advising others to play WoW ;-)
> And YOU may not like the classic servers, and I understand why when
> you are well established on Excalibur, but the numbers don't lie. New
> players like them and they are drawing heaps of old players back to
> DAoC to left because of ToA. And more players left over ToA than for
> any other reason, including WoW. Jeez even Mythic have now admitted it
> was a mistake and it's their damn game.
I actually knew as many players who left because of New Frontiers rather
than ToA.
> >Popped onto the classic servers when i had my US account running and it
> >seemed to be full of vampires and warlocks and hardly any albions.
Guess
> >they need to work out how to create a better class balance for
> >"classic" servers that the lack of ToA somehow seems to cause. I've
also
> >noticed that the arrival of these servers had a substantial negative
> >impact on the other servers.
>
> See comment above.
>
> And there are plenty of Albions. Otherwise I must be dreaming I'm
> fighting them ;). Gareth is very balanced, as is Lamorak now. And
> there has always been fotm when a new expansion is released with new
> cl*****, or races, available. I agree that Warlocks are insane at the
> moment though, but the nerf bat is coming. Vamps are great PvE and in
> the battlegrounds but how many claw spammers cut it in the frontiers?
> Tri-specced good players do, but the rest?
?
> >When Mythic was polling players about what kind of new server they
> >wanted GOA also polled its subscribers and they voted for the Home
> >Invasion server suggestion by a long shot over the Classic server. As a
> >result there are no plans for classic server at the moment.
>
> Again, what's this to Sean? Players on the UK servers are well
> established, in good guilds, have good equipment, MLs/Artis and most
> have bots. The home invasion server isn't here yet. It may never be.
> When it appears, if it does, will it allow bots and /level? Also
> Mythic US may add a home invasion server too. I'd bet a some serious
> plat on who adds it first :).
I'm not trumpetting HI over Classic - just saying that for some reason
the majority of players on GOAs servers aren't that interested in
Classic, in fact recent polls show more interest in Mythic sorting out
class balance than anything else.
As for bots, I seem to recall a lot of players towing enhance clerics
behind them on the Classic Servers.
> A total newbie to MMORPGs, new to DAoC leveling from 1. No friends
> in-game and no guild. No bot account. In that situation I know where
> I'd start playing and I've been playing MMORPGs since I beta tested
> The Realm in '97. It's a no brainer IMHO.
>
> I never said the UK servers were dead, in fact I've said they aren't.
> I had a good time in Leirvik the other night. It's the individual
> situation of the original poster that is im****tant here. And his
> perceptions starting a MMORPG for the very first time will be very
> different to yours or mine. I have toons on Excal/Pryd with the
> goodies but even given that I know where I'm having the most fun at
> the moment by a long chalk.
>
> BB.
>
My main point is that levelling from 1 is a far from solitary business
on Exalibur. There are Albion, Excalibur guilds actively looking for new
members including newbies (not just fully ToA'd ones) and providing them
with assistance to get going (and i don't mean PLing). I've seen plenty
of new-to-DAOC sub-20s down in the Roman Aqueducts too and as I'm
usually down there I spend a heck of a lot of time grouped with them and
take them on sightseeing tours of Salisbury Plains too ;-)
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