In article <li72k1le7f3r1ju9m6dgai8mv1fjccrjvv@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Barnacle Bill
<away@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes
>On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 12:05:45 +0100, Sean Black
><sean@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>After playing the free 14 day trial for a few days and enjoying it after
>>a few teething troubles :-), Which were soon sorted, thanks to some
>>really helpful people on here, thanks guys. I decided to take the plunge
>>and go for the full version.
>>
>>Despite warnings from certain quarters (BB you're welcome to say "I told
>>you so", if I come on here whining about how crap the servers are ;-)),
>>I decided to go with the UK rather than the US version. Mainly because I
>>can get it for £18, I couldn't seem to find it (game + 3 expansions) for
>>anything like that price from the US.
>>
>>I hope it doesn't turn out to be a false economy. The way I looked at
>>it, the saving I made buying the UK version, should effectively give me
>>three months "free" play. The one month free that comes with the game,
>>plus a couple of months subscription, paid for by the difference in
>>price.
>>
>>Anyone have any good things to say about the Euro servers?
>>
>>If it is as bad as some people say and I'm still playing and enjoying
>>the game after two or three months, I'll cut my losses and switch to the
>>US version. So, as the header, are the Euro servers really that bad?
>
>Argggggg!
>
>See what myself and Magnus have been posting in this thread.
>
I did notice your most recent post and also the one from Magnus, after
I'd placed the order though, it's ****pped now, so too late to cancel.
I know you're a self-confessed GOA hater, Bill :-)
Anyone else got any differing experiences of the Euro servers? If it's
all bad I might just leave my copy sealed and Ebay it.
>Personally I do think it is false economy, BIGTIME FALSE ECONOMY, and
>that's why I *urged* you to join the US servers. Here are the *main*
>reasons, and maybe Magnus will be able to add to these. I also think
>it will diminish greatly your enjoyment of the game as a newbie, to
>the point where you may quit, not because you hate the game, but out
>of frustration.
>
>1. GOA are not very good. You will get late up-dates and late
>expansions. The UK servers are currently three versions behind the US
>I think. Also the new Darkness Rising expansion is released on the US
>servers next week but I've heard GOA will not have it for release for
>a few months yet, maybe not even this year. That sort of time frame
>fits with their delay on previous expansions.
>
As a newbie, am I really going to know any better? The only version I
know anything about at the moment is whatever one is in the trial
version, and I don't believe that includes Catacombs?
>2. Population is falling pretty fast on the UK servers with mainly the
>die-hard, experienced players, left. They already have all the goodies
>and a good guild with wide network of in-game friends. They will
>mainly be RvRing. If they play alts they can create a new character at
>instant level 20, because they will already have a level 50, or many,
>on the server. This will mean you will likely be *very* lonely
>leveling your character up.
>
>3. GOA has decided not to implement the classic servers. On the
>classic servers *nobody* can create an instant level 20 new character
>so even the experienced players must start from level 1 again. This
>means the newbie areas are teaming with life, whereas on the UK
>servers the newbie areas are almost completely desolate.
>
TBH, I wouldn't know a classic server form any other.
>There is also the added bonus, if playing as a newbie, on the US
>servers that because the experienced folks start from level 1 just
>like you, you will:
>
>a) Get great advice on the newbie channel about all aspects of the
>game.
>
>b) Be able to group with players who know what they are doing and will
>teach you and give you hints and help. They will also know the good
>places to hunt and where to get the good equipment from.
>
>c) You WILL get into a good guild fairly easily. This will be your
>main source of community, friends and fun whilst playing.
I can see how these would be an advantage.
>
>4. Buff bots. On the classic servers there are no Buff Bots.
>
>A Buff Bot is a robot character that is not played actively, but just
>exists to give huge stat boots to the owning player. A Buff Bot is
>always a healing class, a Cleric, Shaman or Druid usually which has
>been specced totally in enhancement of other characters stats and
>resistance. This means as you have no Buff Bot that you will level
>slower than other players in PvE, and when you do get to RvR you will
>be at a huge disadvantage because the player(s) you will be fighting
>against will be fully buffed up to the gills by their bot(s) making it
>nigh impossible for you to win fights.
>
>If you want a buffbot to compete you *must* buy a second account, and
>have a second PC to run the bot account on, or have a good enough PC
>that will run two copies of DAoC at the same time.
>
Still not sure if I understand the whole Buff Bot thing.
>THIS REASON ALONE NEGATES ANY SAVING YOU THINK YOU HAVE MADE!
>
>5. Without a shadow of a doubt in my mind Camelot US will *far*
>outlast GOA Europe Camelot. Sheer weight of population means that it
>will, despite all the other reasons. Remember I have told you already
>that the US servers are the official servers for The USA, Canada,
>Australia and New Zealand. Whereas the GOA UK servers are mainly for
>Brits with a smattering of English speaking Scandinavians, Dutch etc.
>who would rather play on the English speaking servers than the German
>of French ones. Which one do YOU think will last longest, given that
>population slowly declines on both over the next two years?
>
>6. Mythic have dropped the new MMORPG they were developing, Imperator,
>and have picked up the license to Warhammer Online. It will not,
>however, be ready until mid 2007 at least. This means DAoC will be
>Mythic's cash generator until they get Warhammer out so they WILL keep
>DAoC US going for as long as possible. GOA on the other had are
>involved in other projects of their own and do not have the same
>motivation as Mythic themselves do.
>
>What can I say? I hate to say it but I'll say it now because I have no
>doubts you will regret it. I told you so!.
>
>
>All that said, now you are where you are now so I suggest:
>
>1. Make as many friends as you can, as quickly as you can, even
>though it is hard work.
>
>2. Try to get into a good, friendly guild ASAP who will be able to
>nurture you to a level where you have at least a cat's chance in hell
>of being able to compete, and are prepared spending the time to do so
>when they are all RvRing. I wish you luck in finding this guild.
>
>I really wish you had asked here before buying the UK version. As a
>matter of interest, and because someone here told you to ignore what I
>had advised you, I reopened my UK accounts again. I wanted to check
>just in case I had misjudged things, or been too harsh. Also I can
>afford it and have high enough level characters to have fun for a
>month when the US servers are slack, so it's no biggie for me.
TBH, the money thing isn't that much of a problem, the saving was nice,
having only ever played three days of the trial version, I still don't
know for sure if MMO is definitely my thing. As I mentioned before, I'm
an impatient/impuslive bugger at the best of times :-) Ordering the UK
version means I could get hold of it in a couple of days, rather than 2
or three weeks for the US version.
>
>For the last while I have been logging into the UK severs at *peak* UK
>times including weekends. The newbie areas have been almost dead, in
>all realms, every time I have checked. The only odd character in the
>newbie areas are probably just ones playing the free trial, as they
>all seemed to be kids. The Battlegrounds have been dead in all realms,
>apart from the higher level ones (Molvik and Leirvik) and even they
>are not exactly heaving with action. But you will not be in them for
>some considerable time.
>
Didn't realise there was a free trial of the UK version, otherwise I
could have tried that myself.
>So the UK servers are not dead, no.....They are just an INSANE choice
>for an English speaking complete newbie IMHO. Also with Mythic now
>offering digital downloads of all the packs with deals on multiples,
>and the fact that the Epic version will be out very shortly, you
>really haven't saved that much money anyway. Sorry to say it :(.
Didn't know about the digital downloads from Mythic. Had a quick browse
on their site and saw that a couple of things were available for
download purchase, didn't realise you get all the packs. I shall
investigate further when I get home. I may go down this route yet.
>
>But hey,who knows, maybe GOA will pull out some real neat magic trick
>and all I've said above will be smoke out of my a*se, but I can't see
>it.
>
>And to preempt anyone who want to chuck a flame my way note that I
>said the following:
>
>An insane choice for a COMPLETE NEWBIE with ONE ACCOUNT.
>
>BB.
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Sean Black
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