"Captain Heyrab" <Captain_underscore_Heyrab@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Nyctolops" <nyctolops@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:24:20 GMT, "Pi" <pinospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> My feeling is that graphics are nice but games are all about gameplay.
> Unless graphics are part of the gameplay it's just eye candy to me. I'd
> like to see more subtleies in the people some day. Like if you really
had
> to look at them to tell if they were lying, see a slight flush of the
> face, pupil dilation, tight lips.
>
I don't disagree with this, but eventually you will get to understand a
lot
more this way.
Of course, the situation in Oblivion is not much different, when you are
told a lie: it shows you haven't
been told the whole truth. And yet, it spoils the adventure ... finding
out
someone lied later on, is what would truly make it
interesting ... or trying hard to increase your disposition towards a
character would make this rewarding ('imagine! the son-of-a-gun
was lying to me before!"). O
> Daggerfall still makes the hair on the back of my neck crawl. The
fighting
> interface really gets me involved. I really have to bob and weave when
> going up against a powerful attacker. The sheer size makes it
interesting,
> the
You really feel you're going on a long quest because ... well, you are! :)
> I don't know why but those pixelated graphics don't bother me, even when
> they turn into giant squares. Sure they look stupid but I don't mind it,
> whereas a slight flaw in an otherwise beautiful 3D model does bother me.
> Deep down somewhere. Sort of like how the robot on Lost in Space doesn't
> bother me but ones that look almost human do.
>
I think that is at the heart of the problem. We forget sometimes that we
play to relax and have some fun,
to role-play a character for a bit, get involved in the essence of the
game.
But of course when you have the pretty
graphics you will go "ah! so pretty" and then you will want the latest mod
that adds more pretty lips, or hands and it
just doesn't stop. Nothing wrong with that, but it often stays there.
Perhaps there is a way out: introducing some serious randomization into
mods.
If only MW/Oblivion mods could randomize terrain and buildings to make new
cities and dungeons out of them, we would at least have an enormous game
to
play with, 'cos I think a very large part of what we're missing here is
getting lost into some world. Now, I am sorry but I cannot feel lost in a
small state that the Imperial City is, and as for running around the
wilderness I feel like running around my back garden. OK, this is a little
harsh but the people who enthuse with oblivion are those who never even
learned of DF ('cos Arena is out there fo all and was good but quite plain
in terms of content -- the only thing missing in DF from Arena, IMHO, is
the
interesting scenery between cities, as in DF it is not as varied). So, if
we
randomize MW/Oblivion to make new cities and huge dungeones and then
obviously add more guilds, some "work", set "asking directions" (instead
of
being led by the hand), then perhaps we can get a new evolved DF. Contrary
to what Bethesda has been doing (reducing randomization) I think the way
forward is to bring it back.
> Heyrab
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