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Re: Battlefield Chechnya

by sergio <senza_nome2001@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 5, 2003 at 06:10 PM

John Secker wrote:

> In article <3FCE2F0E.2060305@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, sergio 
> <senza_nome2001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes
> 
>>> A "terrorist" is technically someone who attacks civilian targets in
>>> order to spread mass fear.  That wouldn't include most of the Chechen
>>> fighters.
>>
>>
>>
>> oh really? how do you call people that take civilians as hostages in
>> hospitals, schools, buses  and so on and murder them or simply
destroyed
>> entire buildings and so on?
>>
> You call them terrorists, of course. How does this address what he 
> wrote? He said that most of the Chechen fighters do not fall into this 
> category - because they are attacking the Russian armed forces.

oh yes ,
Someone like this guerrilla fighters right?


36 Killed in Train Blast Near Chechnya
Bomb Tears Through Commuter Train Near Chechnya, Killing 36; Authorities 
Suspect Terrorism

The Associated Press



ROSTOV-ON-DON, Russia Dec. 5 -- A bomb tore through a commuter train 
Friday near the separatist region of Chechnya, killing 36 people and 
wounding scores of others in an attack that President Vladimir Putin 
said was intended to disrupt this weekend's parliamentary elections.
Authorities said a male suicide bomber triggered the explosion and three 
other attackers all women also were involved. At least two of the women 
may have jumped from the train before the blast.






The rebel Chechen government denied it was responsible for the blast, 
the second fatal attack on the rail line near the breakaway republic 
since September.

The 8 a.m. explosion ripped open the side of train as it approached a 
station near Yessentuki, about 750 miles south of Moscow, hurling 
passengers to the ground. Others were trapped under a mound of twisted, 
burning wreckage for hours.

At least 148 wounded were hospitalized, and another 29 suffered only 
slight injuries, said Maj. Gen. Nikolai Lityuk of the Emergency 
Situations Ministry.

Authorities found undetonated grenades still strapped to the legs of a 
male suicide attacker, the Interfax news agency quoted Nikolai 
Patrushev, head of the Federal Security Service, as saying. Experts 
gingerly entered the wreckage to remove the explosives and later 
detonated them, Russian television re****ted.

Patrushev said two women jumped from the train just before the 
explosion, Interfax re****ted. The male suicide bomber has not been 
identified. Patrushev did not say what happened to the third alleged 
female attacker.

They also found the remnants of a bag believed to have carried the bomb, 
the security agency said. The device was estimated to have the force of 
22 pounds of TNT, said Vladimir Rudyak, a spokesman for the local 
prosecutor's office, and blew one of the train cars onto its side.

It was not known if the death toll of 36 included the male attacker.

Putin called the attack "an attempt to destabilize the situation in the 
country on the eve of parliamentary elections" on Sunday.

"The international terrorism that has challenged many countries 
continues to represent a serious threat for our country," Putin said. 
"It is a ruthless, serious, treacherous enemy. Innocent people suffer 
from their activity."

The rebel Chechen government led by President Aslan Maskhadov issued a 
statement denying its involvement.

"We repeat that the Chechen government is guided by the principles of 
international humanitarian law," the statement said. "We therefore 
condemn any acts of violence that directly or indirectly target the 
civilian population anywhere in the world."

The rush-hour attack seemed calculated to kill and injure a large number 
of people, and local health officials said the train was carrying a 
large number of students from schools and universities.

Hours after the blast, firefighters continued to pull dead from beneath 
the carriage.

"We will find those who did it, " Interior Minister Boris Gryzlov said, 
according to the Interfax news agency. "The earth will be burning under 
their feet."

Six people were killed in two blasts on the same train line in 
September. No group claimed responsibility for those attacks.

A series of suicide bombings and other attacks have rocked the region in 
and around Chechnya and Moscow this year.

In June, a female suicide attacker detonated a bomb near a bus carrying 
soldiers and civilians to work at a military airfield near Mozdok, the 
headquarters for Russian troops in the Caucasus region, killing at least 
16 people. A month earlier, a suicide truck-bombing in Chechnya killed 
72 people and a woman blew herself up at a religious ceremony, killing 
at least 18 people.

A double suicide bombing at a rock concert in Moscow on July 5 killed 
the female attackers and 15 other people. Soon after that, bomb experts 
said a woman from Chechnya left an explosive on a Moscow street that 
killed a bomb disposal expert.

In October 2002, Chechen rebels seized a Moscow theater for nearly three 
days before Russian authorities ended the siege by spraying a powerful 
gas in the building. More than 120 of the 800 hostages were killed.

Russian forces have been bogged down in Chechnya since 1999, when they 
returned following rebel raids on a neighboring Russian region. Earlier, 
they fought an unsuccessful 1994-96 war against separatists that ended 
in de facto independence for the region.
 




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"Gunny Bunny" &  2003-11-16 00:11:12 
Re: Battlefield Chechnya
sergio <senza_nome2001  2003-11-23 10:43:47 
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"raymond o'hara"  2003-11-23 18:06:07 
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"John Pancoast"  2003-11-23 15:06:42 
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sergio <senza_nome2001  2003-12-03 18:41:03 
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"raymond o'hara"  2003-12-03 20:21:00 
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"Hermann Hesse"  2003-11-23 20:46:54 
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"res0xur8" <  2003-11-24 20:13:58 
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"Hermann Hesse"  2003-11-25 11:45:42 
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Scott D. Orr <sdorr@[E  2003-11-26 00:09:09 
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"Jarg" <scot  2003-11-26 19:13:11 
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sergio <senza_nome2001  2003-12-03 18:44:35 
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jpancoast@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2003-12-05 07:09:22 
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John Secker <john@[EMA  2003-12-04 23:14:17 
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sergio <senza_nome2001  2003-12-05 18:10:40 
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John Secker <john@[EMA  2003-12-06 00:17:44 
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sergio <senza_nome2001  2003-12-09 17:54:40 
Re: Battlefield Chechnya
John Secker <john@[EMA  2003-12-06 00:23:08 
Re: Battlefield Chechnya
"John Pancoast"  2003-12-05 19:56:39 

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