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> Öjevind Lång said to all of alt.games.civ3
>
>> By the way, are spies visible to barbarians?
> I don't think so, but there usually aren't any
> barbarians left by the time spies are available
> in vanilla civ4. I'm shaking my magic 8 ball...
> "Answer hazy, ask again"
I'll test it some time by landing a spy on one of those islands ruled by
barbarians and see what happens. Perhaps I can steal money from the
barbarians!
>> I know Great
>> People are, and Great People are also visible to the other
>> civs though I seem to recall that the manual says they are
>> not. On one occasion, a Great Merchant I sent to another
>> continent was killed in neutral terriory by a unit
>> belonging to my enemy which happened to be in the area.
> Ha haaaaaaa... oops, I mean, "Aw, that's too bad!"
> "An unescorted settler, merchant or trans****t are
> all huge risks. Make sure you are willing to take
> them." So, were you?
The ****p trans****ting the Merchant was heavily convoyed, but the killing
took place in an inland city belonging to this civ with which both I and
my
enemy had an open borders agreement.
> I was, in that game where I was playing as Elizabeth,
> with the pacifism civic. I was running a lot of
> merchants to make my cash on hand last longer while
> I was trying to get a tech lead. I had two other
> merchants when a barbarian ate one that had just
> landed right outside roosevelt's borders. The next
> one stayed on the boat until it was safely within
> his borders, and explored his empire for me while
> the third was on the way.
Haa haa haa yourself - serve you right for laughing at my misfortune! ;-)
"Eaten by barbarians" - I bet they put it in a big black round iron pot
and
boiled it alive, just like in old cartoons.
>> Grr! And anwyay, isn't it a violation of a country's
>> neutrality in a war to kill each other in it?
>>
> That's not neutral territory, it's the frontier.
> Now, if you and your enemy have open borders
> with a third country and your units encounter
> each other in that third country, what then?
> I've never had that happen, and it doesn't
> seem likely, so I'm wondering if anyone else
> has seen that situation?
But that was the case. I thought my Merchant would get more money if I
moved
it to the capital city, well away from the frontier, and it was there that
it encountered the enemy unit which killed it. Anyway, I have discovered
that post cities are almost always the most rewarding ones to cash in a
merchant in, so my act was unnecessary. I give myself good behaviour
points
for not reloading the game after that incident.
Seriously, killing units belonging to the other side on neutral ground
should quite simply be impossible, or else carry extremely heavy
penalties.
I see intersting diplomatic possibilites that could be include din the
game.
One could demand money from the host coutnry, or that it closed its border
against the units of the other side, or else be liable to a lower
reputation, and also, if it refuses to comply, one can declare war against
it without suffering a hit to one's own reputation. No "you declared war
on
your friend!" from the other civs.
Öjevind
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