On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:09:51 +0200, "Öjevind Lång"
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> wrote:
>"Jeffery S. Jones" <jeffsj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> skrev i meddelandet
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>> The game itself has few critical, game-killing bugs with the 3.13
>> patch. The unofficial patch fixes some annoyances, and a handful of
>> bad things which may not come up in most games.
>
>Some things come up in all or most games, such as the trade weirdness -
the
>AI civs asking for five or six of your resources for one of theirs, or
>wanting to buy resources they already have (and not for the purpose of
then
>selling them to other civs). That has been confirmed as a bug, not as the
>civs being fiendishly clever. And then there's the fact that the culture
>value of buildings isn't supplied in the building list. Also, now the AI
>builds battalions of cor****ation executives - more than they can ever
use.
>And for multiplayer, the game is apparently completely broken after the
>latest patch. There are other weird things too, but these are the
critical
>ones.
There is a workaround for the trade thing, but it is a pain. Just
take off the items the AI already has, since they are worthless, and
they'll still accept the trade.
MP works for some people, and there is a relatively simple fix which
so far seems to work (delete the cache, so that all machines start
from new data with a new game).
> I only wish Firaxis would announce that they will publish an official
>patch when it is ready, but they have not said a word. I suppose they are
>completely absorbed by that console version of Civ they are about the put
on
>the shelves. But this absolute silence is not doing them any good with
their
>fanbase.
No, that part doesn't help. Strictly speaking, it isn't Firaxis but
Take 2 that controls patches and patch information.
Some companies put out beta patches. Bug fixes which aren't run
through the full QC but which might help. The reason for sticking
with flawed patches, though, is that even if there are problems, MP
players still have the same version so matchups are possible.
Unofficial and beta patches can make doing so harder. You can't do
competitive games unless everyone has the same version.
Overall, the 3.13 patch is pretty decent. Some of the new bugs
appeared when old bugs were fixed (trading fixed vassal refusal to
trade resources, unfortunately it broke the check on the player's side
of the trade).
I adopted Solver's original unofficial patch early, used the Better
AI mod in warlords, and only put 3.13 on after Bhruic put out the
first unofficial fix. For me, the game seems to work fine.
I know that a lot of people don't want to install an unofficial fix,
and even if they did, don't trust themselves to do it properly even
with detailed instructions. A lot of people don't really want to look
at their files and directories, like they're ****d or something.
OTOH, the unofficial patching community is good at finding bugs and
fixes. Many heads are better than one. I don't know how many
programmers Firaxis is allowed to use on BTS right now, but it isn't
likely to be many. A lot of the problems can be identified by
players, and fixes tested, making the eventual patch better.
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