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Re: What is the Fifth Age?

by "Craig J. Ries" <silvanthalas@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 27, 2007 at 08:45 PM

Falconer wrote:
> 
> Right there on the back of RotT you can read:

I stand corrected. I've not read those products in years and my copies 
are buried away.

Still, they were the last two SAGA products, and Sylvan Veil was 
released a year prior to DoaFS (Sylvan Veil in Feb '99, RotT in Feb '00, 
DoaFS in Mar '00), so any mention of WoS there is nothing more than 
advertisement.

The mention of WoS in RotT is still irrelevant since the Titans had 
nothing to do with WoS.

> How could the tale of the ****eld end other than by its destruction?

I never said it couldn't. The problem is a complete lack of natural 
evolution of the setting and the feeling that things are happening for a 
reason, rather than the impression that everything is happening because 
those in charge don't like it.

Yeah, the 5th Age would've been better if BoT could have been rolled out 
on its own, to bring forth new elements, rather than crunching them into 
a few chapters at the beginning of DoaNA and then have BoT follow along 
to fill in the gaps.

But then WoS did the EXACT same thing to the same elements, in the span 
of, what was in-world, no time at all. There was nothing organic about 
the way W&H tore apart everything the SAGA team & Rabe built.

Consider Rabe's Dhamon Saga trilogy, and it's building up to the death 
of Sable in a natural, if somewhat munchkin, manner.

Contrast that to WoS, where everything was simply a pawn to be thrown 
before the bigger pieces. Hell, even the heroes of the story were 
nothing more than pawns, which frustrates me as much as anything else in 
that trilogy.

  > You've got a double-standard.

I have a double standard? That's pretty funny.

My standard is pretty clear: don't compound mistakes with more mistakes.

That is what I feel W&H did throughout War of Souls. As is self-evident, 
the result splintered the fan base even more and a failure to bring fans 
'back in the fold'.

> in my opinion the best-executed of any DL novel ever

Well, it's pretty obvious that we have completely different opinions on 
what constitutes great execution.

As good as Margaret and Tracy's writing was throughout WoS, the story 
served no purpose beyond the usual "evil turns upon itself" and 
destruction simply for the sake of destruction, with an extra helping of 
destruction on the side.

Instead of a progressive beginning to an end to things, it was a case of 
sweeping everything under the rug.

The end of the ****eld and the revelations behind it might have been 
rather easy to accept (and I believe they were at the time), if that 
wasn't preceded by the destruction of the Academy, and then followed 
immediately by the wiping out of Beryl and Qualinesti (again, something 
I don't see many complaining about, for all the other places screwed up 
in the 5th Age), and finally Soth and Malys. I'm sure I'm forgetting 
other things.

Oh, and speaking of Qualinesti... I *like* the Lake of Death (double 
standard indeed)... I just wish that 3 products didn't immediately 
describe it 3 different ways.

> --and you're the paragon of bitter dinos. Regards.

Oh please. If that describes me, then it applies equally as well to 
anybody who *****es and moans about losing everything about the 4th Age, 
  yourself included.

The setting moved on after the 4th Age.

IMO, it hasn't moved on after the removal of everything created for the 
5th Age.

Craig J. Ries
 




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What is the Fifth Age?
John Salerno <johnjsal  2007-08-23 15:10:22 
Re: What is the Fifth Age?
Falconer <ulmo@[EMAIL   2007-08-24 10:57:53 
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Morten Brattbakk <slir  2007-08-24 09:05:25 
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John Salerno <johnjsal  2007-08-24 12:16:10 
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Matthew Amsel <matthew  2007-08-24 13:22:23 
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Matthew Amsel <matthew  2007-08-23 15:32:27 
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"Craig J. Ries"  2007-08-25 09:49:23 
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Falconer <ulmo@[EMAIL   2007-08-25 12:34:02 
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"Craig J. Ries"  2007-08-25 12:13:41 
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Falconer <ulmo@[EMAIL   2007-08-27 10:01:43 
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Matthew Amsel <matthew  2007-08-27 11:08:23 
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"Craig J. Ries"  2007-08-27 09:23:33 
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Falconer <ulmo@[EMAIL   2007-08-27 10:55:17 
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Morten Brattbakk <slir  2007-08-26 03:29:06 
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Matthew Amsel <matthew  2007-08-26 21:57:07 
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Kaithan Kanathar <Kait  2007-08-30 21:34:57 
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Falconer <ulmo@[EMAIL   2007-08-30 22:35:31 
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Kaithan Kanathar <Kait  2007-09-08 13:20:39 
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Matthew Amsel <matthew  2007-09-08 15:08:07 
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Falconer <ulmo@[EMAIL   2007-09-08 16:32:22 
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Kaithan Kanathar <Kait  2007-09-11 00:59:24 
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Falconer <ulmo@[EMAIL   2007-09-11 08:23:10 
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Falconer <ulmo@[EMAIL   2007-09-08 17:47:04 
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Morten Brattbakk <slir  2007-08-26 04:26:30 
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Morten Brattbakk <slir  2007-08-27 11:08:55 
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"Craig J. Ries"  2007-08-27 14:01:48 
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"Craig J. Ries"  2007-08-27 14:07:42 
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Falconer <ulmo@[EMAIL   2007-08-27 19:01:38 
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"Craig J. Ries"  2007-08-27 20:45:23 
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Matthew Amsel <matthew  2007-08-28 08:57:18 
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talinthas <shbhatt@[EM  2007-08-27 20:10:09 
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Morten Brattbakk <slir  2007-08-28 09:51:42 
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"Craig J. Ries"  2007-08-28 12:15:59 
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Morten Brattbakk <slir  2007-08-28 09:53:05 
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Morten Brattbakk <slir  2007-08-28 09:54:56 
Re: What is the Fifth Age?
"Craig J. Ries"  2007-08-28 11:58:26 
Re: What is the Fifth Age?
Falconer <ulmo@[EMAIL   2007-08-28 17:10:45 
Re: What is the Fifth Age?
"Craig J. Ries"  2007-08-28 18:46:10 
Re: What is the Fifth Age?
Falconer <ulmo@[EMAIL   2007-08-28 20:42:56 
Re: What is the Fifth Age?
"Craig J. Ries"  2007-08-28 21:03:11 
Re: What is the Fifth Age?
Falconer <ulmo@[EMAIL   2007-08-28 16:53:35 
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Falconer <ulmo@[EMAIL   2007-08-28 22:09:10 
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Weldon Chen <granakrs@  2007-08-29 12:03:24 
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Weldon Chen <granakrs@  2007-08-29 12:55:04 
Re: What is the Fifth Age?
"Craig J. Ries"  2007-08-29 14:21:34 
Re: What is the Fifth Age?
Weldon Chen <granakrs@  2007-08-29 16:07:19 
Re: What is the Fifth Age?
Falconer <ulmo@[EMAIL   2007-08-29 20:07:39 

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